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<description><![CDATA[sporkme posted : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by <a href="/profile/639017" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=639017');">halfband</a>:</SMALL><BR><BR>But in this case there are many areas with "zero" fiber lines on the poll.  This way these small companies are the first one there.  They are the ones that can choose to lease out the lines or deny access to competitors.  I am not talking about overbuilding areas that already have fiber.<br> </DIV>Yes, excellent business plan!  The startup, who has little capital should really go to the places that everyone else has deemed unprofitable, even with their vast amounts of available cash.<br><br>Would you put your money in that?]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 15:34:27 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[Skippy25 posted : Your right so lets take this a step further and simply build one nationwide network that services every person/place that any company that wants to lease those lines to provide a service can do so to reach any customer anywhere.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 14:00:11 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[DufiefData posted : So, let a group of competitors form a consortium to build out a joint infrastructure over which they will all compete. It will reduce the capital expenditure incumbent upon each individual company.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 12:15:47 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[n2jtx posted : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by vz sucks :</SMALL><BR><BR>It's time for the moochers to stop mooching and build their own networks be it fiber, wireless, or whatever. Don't give me crap about the barriers of entry being to high, rights of way issues, etc, etc, etc. Money makes the world go 'round. If you can't afford the start up costs then you are SOL!<br><br>END THE FREE RIDE.<br> </DIV>Be careful what you ask for.  You might just get it and live to regret it.<br><br>Anyone remember back in the .COM boom of the late 1990's how companies were tearing up streets all over the place to lay down fiber?  Atlanta was a huge mess with contractors tripping over each other tearing up streets and there was nothing the city could do to stop them due to Federal rules.<br><br>And wouldn't it look lovely to have a huge overhead rats nest of wires like some third world country or as wiring looked in the United States back in the early 1900's in many cities?  Telco's were given a monopoly back then to limit the number of competitors and companies stringing wires.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 12:00:04 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[halfband posted : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by <a href="/profile/1032716" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1032716');">dcurrey</a>:</SMALL><br><br>Not practical.  If you have 10 companies offering service you will need 10 sets of lines on poles.</DIV>But in this case there are many areas with "zero" fiber lines on the poll.  This way these small companies are the first one there.  They are the ones that can choose to lease out the lines or deny access to competitors.  I am not talking about overbuilding areas that already have fiber.<br><SMALL>--<br>Registered Bandwidth Offender #40812</SMALL>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 11:28:23 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[dcurrey posted : Not practical.  If you have 10 companies offering service you will need 10 sets of lines on poles.  10 times the ground is going to have to be dug up. 10 more chances something else is going to get cut unexpectedly. <br><br>This is like saying UPS and Fedex have to build and maintain there own roadways.  Can't use the current roads they are for the USPS. <br><br>Underlying infrastructure needs to be removed from private hands and made public.  This is they only way true competition will happen.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 11:09:55 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[PhoenixDown posted : Thats easy to say when the incumbent telco was given the majority of their rights of way back when they were a monopoly.<br><br>But your right... that shouldn't be an issue. <br><br>What is an issue is the incumbent telco and cable providers teaming up to effectively prevent competition from entering thier markets and there are numerous front page articles here at DSLR about just that.<br><SMALL>--<br>{Insert Something Witty Here}</SMALL>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 10:30:28 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[anon posted : It's time for the moochers to stop mooching and build their own networks be it fiber, wireless, or whatever. Don't give me crap about the barriers of entry being to high, rights of way issues, etc, etc, etc. Money makes the world go 'round. If you can't afford the start up costs then you are SOL!<br><br>END THE FREE RIDE.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 09:22:53 EDT</pubDate>
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