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<title>[VoiceStick] Is VoiceStick now charging for incoming calls on N2 in VOIP Tech Chat</title>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/395330"><b>christcorp</b></A> : When I first got voicestick, I called them specifically about their next to nothing plan vs the $9.95 400 minute plan. At the time I signed up, minutes for outgoing was $0.02 with free incoming. Now, not being the person who believes in getting something for nothing, I planned on making outgoing calls also and NOT using it as a free number for inbound. I specifically asked them however how they could charge $10 for 400 minutes, when at $0.02 a minute, the same price would get you 500 minutes and ALL TAXES AND FEES are included in the price. The lady giggled and said; <br><br>"Yes, we know that. But some people asked for a limited minute plan so they could have a regular bill and not have to worry about "Refilling" the account. If they can't read and figure out that the N2N plan is a better deal, then that is their fault".<br><br>I agree with her 100%. Even at $0.02 for outgoing and $0.011 for incoming, the N2N is still a better plan that the 400 minute plan. Taxes and fees are already included and you get about the same amount of minutes without all the hassles. Even under the old plan, the N2N plan was a better deal.<br><br>Anyway, I still like voicestick. Most of the time they are up and running and sound great. The E911 works. It's a great second line in case my primary line; (Packet8); goes down. "Which has only happened 5 times in 2 years for a very short period of time". I highly recommend them. Especially for a 2nd line or backup. I NEVER choose 2 lines with the same provider. It doesn't save you money, and if they go down, so do both lines. Later... Mike....]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1021902"><b>jeffnyc</b></A> : yes... he meant 0.011 - obvious typo - technically 0.018 =)<br><br>mike - i do agree that the n2n plan people should not complain but for the $9.95 400 min they should include incoming otherwise its not worth it.... $9.95 ~ $12 with e911 fee, that much money would give you 666 minutes on the n2n plan.... which is why I went with the n2n plan (no satanistic jokes please :)]]></description>
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<title>Re: Voicestick must have purchased some incoming minutes!</title>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/976182"><b>redshift</b></A> : Isn't that 1.1c/min not 11c/min?]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/395330"><b>christcorp</b></A> : To look at it realistically, I'm sure that there were a lot of people using Voicestick basically as an incoming line only. So, they throw on 1000+ minutes a month incoming on it in a month, with the next 2 nothing plan, and voicestick makes $0.00 a month on the service. That doesn't seem quite right.<br><br>They do offer regular monthly packages just like the majority of voip providers where they have a "Pseudo" unlimited package for incoming or outgoing. But, as a backup line or 2nd line for my occasional use, voicestick suits my needs perfectly. They make some money off of me each month and I have a second line to use. I can't fault voicestick at all for not wanting to give away a "FREE" voip line every month. Granted, you might have actually used outgoing and paid for service. There are however a lot of people who only used it as an incoming line for free. Nothing wrong with charging for incoming. Especially at $0.11 a minute. Later... Mike....]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/160346"><b>cbrain</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  jeffnyc <A HREF="/useremail/u/1021902"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>Yeah, the incoming call charges suck... I would rather they charged 2 cents or even 2.5 cents instead of 1.18 but unlimited incoming.<br> </div>I was very positive towards VoiceStick before they started billing incoming.  I expect notice from any legitimate vendor before such a change.  I tried to make contact many times by email, phone and by direct contact.  I never got a single informative answer.  My regular incoming on that line would bill out @ well over $10/mo.  I would use the line if they offered U/L incoming for around $6/mo or $10/mo including a bucket of outgoing.  Last week I informed contacts to use another incoming option.  I'll still use VoiceStick where they make economic sense.  They already lost my incoming.  Incoming is not as easy or fast to move.  If they raise the price of outgoing, my next outbound call will reflect the change.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1021902"><b>jeffnyc</b></A> : Yeah, the incoming call charges suck... I would rather they charged 2 cents or even 2.5 cents instead of 1.18 but unlimited incoming.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1471022"><b>dualsub2006</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  celtic <A HREF="/useremail/u/308189"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>I would pay a fixed $10 per month for unlimited incoming and a bucket of outbound.<br> </div>Skype In with Skype Out is $8.95 a month on the quarterly plan. Drops to $7.50 if you do the annual plan. Unlimited in and out to US and Canada with no connection charges. Works like a charm.<br><br>I am going to buy a cordless Skype In/Out phone that works just like a POTS/VOIP cordless plugged in to the wall. WalMart has them on sale just now.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1021902"><b>jeffnyc</b></A> : Voicestick started charging for voicemail retrieval again :(<br><br>Not only that it is currently down...]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/0"><b>anon</b></A> : It says 'it will seem'. That sounds like you are not being double-billed.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/735865"><b>meb</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  jeffnyc <A HREF="/useremail/u/1021902"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</SMALL><BR><BR>So they are admittingly double charging for i2bridge calls???  They also charge incoming calls reaching voicemail.<br> </DIV><div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  cbrain <A HREF="/useremail/u/160346"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</SMALL><BR><BR>---------------<br>From:  via RT [mailto:customersupport@support.i2telecom.com] <br>Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 9:26 AM<br>To: <br>Subject: [support.i2telecom.com #12874] Heads up v- N2N incoming call billing <br><br>...  If you are utilizing the i2bridge feature or global call forwarding, than it will seem as if you are being double billed.  Look at your call history, you will see that you will now be charged for both the incoming call and the outgoing call, if you are on the Next2Nothing plan<br><br>The i2bridge feature is now $4.95 billed monthly for every month you have it enabled.<br><br>Thank you for your business and have a wonderful day.<br><br>Customer Support Representative<br>VoiceStick&#153;<br>---------------</DIV>I noticed that too.  They didn't sugar cote it.  ]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 15:07:44 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1021902"><b>jeffnyc</b></A> : So they are admittingly double charging for i2bridge calls???  They also charge incoming calls reaching voicemail.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 13:46:30 EDT</pubDate>
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<title>Sounds like more VoiceStick changes in the works!</title>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/160346"><b>cbrain</b></A> : This just in ...<br><br>Notice the;<br><B>I do apologize, but in order to keep up with the latest changes at VoiceStick, it would be wise to login to your account everyday at www.voicestick.com.</B><br>---------------<br>From:  via RT [mailto:customersupport@support.i2telecom.com] <br>Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 9:26 AM<br>To: <br>Subject: [support.i2telecom.com #12874] Heads up v- N2N incoming call billing <br><br>I do apologize, but in order to keep up with the latest changes at VoiceStick, it would be wise to login to your account everyday at www.voicestick.com.  We will not send out any mail or email correspondence in reference to system wide changes with the VoiceStick service.  As of 08/17/07, we do charge for all inbound calls now.  We are now charging the extremely low rate of $0.0118 per minute for inbound Calls. To avoid service interruption, customers without Unlimited Calling Plans must have prepaid funds available to cover the cost of these calls.  If you are utilizing the i2bridge feature or global call forwarding, than it will seem as if you are being double billed.  Look at your call history, you will see that you will now be charged for both the incoming call and the outgoing call, if you are on the Next2Nothing plan<br><br>The i2bridge feature is now $4.95 billed monthly for every month you have it enabled.<br><br>Thank you for your business and have a wonderful day.<br><br>Customer Support Representative<br>VoiceStick&#153;<br>---------------<br>This in response to my email sent 8/17/07.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1459925"><b>jeremyv</b></A> : If VS would continue charging for their incoming calls then they will their advantage over other voip providers.<br><br>I am using SuiteAdvantage and I must admit Onesuite's free incoming calls on their voip is one of the major thing that I chose to go with them. So if Onesuite goes the same way of charging incoming calls then for sure a lot of use will have second thoughts about it.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/160346"><b>cbrain</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  meb <A HREF="/useremail/u/735865"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</SMALL><BR><BR>Looks like Voicestick is pushing users to their $19.95/mo or annual plan.  For the time being they must have a large inventory of numbers and are using this to attract new users without advertising.<br> </DIV>I think your right.  Still no response to my email.  <br><br>I'm going to inform friends and family to use an alternative number.  And they all thought I was the phone expert.   :huh:]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/735865"><b>meb</b></A> : Looks like Voicestick is pushing users to their $19.95/mo or annual plan.  For the time being they must have a large inventory of numbers and are using this to attract new users without advertising.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 12:50:33 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1273917"><b>N9MD</b></A> : Given the SunRocket debacle --- and the hundreds of postings regarding the various VoIP provider options and pricing plans --- one common thread seems to be emerging regarding pricing.<br><br>Those providers who we all considered "cheap" (which I define as "beneath inexpensive") are either disappearing or revising their pricing plans (e.g., VoiceStick).  On the other side of the equation we are seeing either temporary reductions in pricing (or "special offers") from some providers trying to attract ex-SR customers --- or permanent reductions such as AxVoice which just reduced their unlimited US/Canada Plan to $18.99 per month, including a free virtual number.<br><br>I will be following all of the VoIP offerings closely with great interest, curious to see how it all shakes out in about 12 to 18 months from now.  Who will be left standing and what will the pricing structure (and included features) be in 2009?  And will only the strong survive? --- Vonage, and the PSTN-VoIP offerings. ]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 10:38:18 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/308189"><b>celtic</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by Braga :</SMALL><BR><BR>voicestick has an unlimited international plan for 24.99/month. That sounds like a competitive price, so I don't see how voicestick is only good for low-usage.<br> </DIV>Mid usage is a better description.  I don't need an international plan or a $19.95 plan.  We all have cellular.  I liked the Sunrocket $199/yr plan but no longer think paying a VoIP provider in advance is a good policy.  I expected to pay Voicestick between $3 and $10 per month.  I would pay a fixed $10 per month for unlimited incoming and a bucket of outbound.  I may just move to the next cell plan and be done with this mess.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 10:00:23 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/0"><b>anon</b></A> : voicestick has an unlimited international plan for 24.99/month. That sounds like a competitive price, so I don't see how voicestick is only good for low-usage.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 09:17:15 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/160346"><b>cbrain</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  cbrain <A HREF="/useremail/u/160346"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</SMALL><BR><BR>The address was correct.  Sent this email Friday morning and got an auto response with ticket number Monday evening. <br><br>Do they offer an express email option?   ;)<br> </DIV>No reply yet addressing the issue.  <br><br>I just noticed their limited plan which I think was $9.95/mo is no longer on VoiceStick web page.<br><br>I like VoiceStick and would like to continue to use them.  I have not yet made changes and it looks like my current VoiceStick usage would bill out at over $20/month.  Yesterdays incoming would bill out at $45/mo.  These same calls moved to other current plans would cost less than $5/mo.  I can shift outbound on the fly but once I change incoming, there is no reason to return.  If VoiceStick wants to stay in the running for higher use accounts they need to act fast. ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1480097"><b>stephencole</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  gbh2o <A HREF="/useremail/u/266201"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</SMALL><BR><BR>I have had similar email failure to them.  However, yesterday the following notice was posted to the account page ;-(<br><br>BILLING CHANGE -<br>We are now charging the extremely low rate of $0.0118 per minute for inbound Calls.<br>To avoid service interruption: Customers without Unlimited Calling Plans must<br>have prepaid funds available to cover the cost of these calls<br><br>It's not bad unless your account is set up for folks that don't have internet access and have to rely on the i2bridge to call out... all charges are automatically doubled then.  Almost eliminates their advantage over OneSuite.<br> </DIV>Onesuite VoIP doesn't charge incoming calls, I hope they stay that way together with $2.95 monthly maintenance fee.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/160346"><b>cbrain</b></A> : Voicestick must have purchased some incoming minutes!<br><br><div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  cbrain <A HREF="/useremail/u/160346"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</SMALL><BR><BR>------------------<br>Your message has been enqueued and undeliverable for 1 day<br>to the following recipients:<br><br>  Recipient address: customersupport@support.i2telecom.com<br>  Reason: unable to deliver this message after 1 day<br><br>Delivery attempt history for your mail:<br>...<br><br>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 08:37:29 -0500 (CDT)<br>; initial status response expected<br><br>The mail system will continue to try to deliver your message for an additional 3 days.<br>...<br> </DIV>The address was correct.  Sent this email Friday morning and got an auto response with ticket number Monday evening. <br><br>Do they offer an express email option?   ;)]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1021902"><b>jeffnyc</b></A> : If I do a reply to a support email I received from them I do get customersupport@support.i2telecom.com .<br><br>While I am not happy about them charging for incoming calls my biggest gripes with relation to the implementation are:<br>1.  Double charges for i2bridge calls.<br>2.  Incoming call rate charged for calls that go to voicemail.  So even if you don't answer amd the call is redirected to your voicemail,  you are still be charged for that caller leaving u a message.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1479622"><b>mojojojo</b></A> : WoW, I am bummed to read this, and I just checked my account and am being charged for incoming. I signed up with VS after reading much on this forum, finding out my SR was about to go out. Which luckily I was at the end of my 2nd year with SR. So I didn't lose anytime with them and actually got 10 days free service at the end since my account was supposed to expire 7/25...But back to VS and their shady middle of the night rate change, what a shame. I was just telling a friend about how cool it was they had free incoming. Now after my SR number was finally ported to VS, they start charging for incoming with NO NOTICE. Even though its a fair price I will just let my account run out, cause who knows whats next... Unless their customer service improves and they offer some kind of new perk, I don't see them lasting long since a lot of people will jump ship.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/266201"><b>gbh2o</b></A> : <BLOCKQUOTE>per M9MD:<br>"I've looked all over the voicestick.com and i2telecom.com sites for the VS support email address you referenced --- without success. Where did you get the customersupport@support.i2telecom.com address? Usually, domain addresses with "support" instead of "www" bring up a webpage. Have you tried support@voicestick.com or support@i2telecom.com or customersupport@voicestick.com or customersupport@i2telecom.com? [I'm just guessing.]<br><br>The VS website has a direct email link for customer support that has worked for me in the past."<br></BLOCKQUOTE><br><br>In my case I used the on-line system to query customer support.  The address returned is what VoiceStick put in! ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/160346"><b>cbrain</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  N9MD <A HREF="/useremail/u/1273917"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</SMALL><BR><BR>I've looked all over the voicestick.com and i2telecom.com sites for the VS support email address you referenced --- without success. Where did you get the <I>customersupport@support.i2telecom.com</I> address?  ...<br> </DIV>I called after reading this thread and the VoiceStick IVR offered that email address.  I just checked and it still does.  Their MX record lists this address and their i2telecom.com, both without a backup server.  I just tried dnsstuff.com and got a "no response" for the above and "Got an unknown RCPT TO response: 551 user does not exist" to CS. & S. @i2telecom.com.<br><br>Voicestick has performed well for me.  This timing is bad because I just started using them as a main number and I have better active options than using their new plan for my expected volume.  They have the choice of what to charge and I the choice to use another provider.  I rate every vendor on several issues.  I would expect a simple notice prior to the change and another post here shows they are probably in violation of their own terms.  I'm not fighting this, just revising my opinion of them.<br><br>After SunRockets whatever, I had decided to use VS for around a third of my outgoing, leave a $10 minimum and deposit at least $5 per month.  I thought providers received revenue from incoming calls.  If their incoming rate was about half, I probable would stick with my plan.  Now I will just re-direct much of my inbound and watch.  I do hope they are successful and adjust this plan or offer a reasonable unlimited inbound.  They appear to be a small operation so I will cut some slack.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1273917"><b>N9MD</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  cbrain <A HREF="/useremail/u/160346"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</SMALL><BR><BR>...Your message has been enqueued and undeliverable for 1 day<br>to the following recipients:<br><br>  Recipient address: customersupport@support.i2telecom.com<br>  Reason: unable to deliver this message after 1 day<br><br>Delivery attempt history for your mail:<br><br>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 18:59:23 -0500 (CDT)<br>; initial status response expected </DIV>I've looked all over the voicestick.com and i2telecom.com sites for the VS support email address you referenced --- without success. Where did you get the <I>customersupport@support.i2telecom.com</I> address?  Usually, domain addresses with "support" instead of "www" bring up a webpage.  Have you tried support@voicestick.com or support@i2telecom.com or customersupport@voicestick.com or customersupport@i2telecom.com? [I'm just guessing.]<br><br>The VS website has a direct email link for customer support that has worked for me in the past.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1439619"><b>Modworks</b></A> : The problem with voicestick is that there customer service is awful.<br><br>They have downtimes they don't explain.<br>Rate changes they do without informing the customer.<br>Hardware settings that change without informing the customer till after the changes are done.<br><br>They need to hire some people as full time customer service or they need to close up shop.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/266201"><b>gbh2o</b></A> : I have had similar email failure to them.  However, yesterday the following notice was posted to the account page ;-(<br><br><br>BILLING CHANGE -<br>We are now charging the extremely low rate of $0.0118 per minute for inbound Calls.<br>To avoid service interruption: Customers without Unlimited Calling Plans must<br>have prepaid funds available to cover the cost of these calls<br><br><br>It's not bad unless your account is set up for folks that don't have internet access and have to rely on the i2bridge to call out... all charges are automatically doubled then.  Almost eliminates their advantage over OneSuite.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/160346"><b>cbrain</b></A> : I sent VoiceStick an email to get an official comment and let them know of this thread.  So far here is what I get...<br><br>------------------<br>Your message has been enqueued and undeliverable for 1 day<br>to the following recipients:<br><br>  Recipient address: customersupport@support.i2telecom.com<br>  Reason: unable to deliver this message after 1 day<br><br>Delivery attempt history for your mail:<br><br>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 18:59:23 -0500 (CDT)<br>; initial status response expected<br><br>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 10:49:15 -0500 (CDT)<br>; initial status response expected<br><br>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 02:38:58 -0500 (CDT)<br>; initial status response expected<br><br>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 22:28:54 -0500 (CDT)<br>; initial status response expected<br><br>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 18:18:15 -0500 (CDT)<br>; initial status response expected<br><br>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 14:08:10 -0500 (CDT)<br>; initial status response expected<br><br>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 11:57:58 -0500 (CDT)<br>; initial status response expected<br><br>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 09:47:40 -0500 (CDT)<br>; initial status response expected<br><br>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 08:37:29 -0500 (CDT)<br>; initial status response expected<br><br>The mail system will continue to try to deliver your message for an additional 3 days.<br>--------------<br><br>Perhaps their mail service started charging for incoming without notice and they didn't have enough on deposit.   ;)]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1301123"><b>kieranmullen</b></A> : Yeah :-( <br><br>However you could just get a call in number form &raquo;<A HREF="http://vitelity.net" >vitelity.net</A> or &raquo;<A HREF="http://les.net/products/product_ipdidusa.php" >les.net/products/product_ipdidusa.php</A><br><br>Port fees are about $10-35 though.<br><SMALL>--<br><br>KieranMullen<br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://360oregon.com" >360oregon.com</A></SMALL>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1366194"><b>voip_user</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  kieranmullen <A HREF="/useremail/u/1301123"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</SMALL><BR><BR>&raquo;<A HREF="http://gizmoproject.com" >gizmoproject.com</A> is great. You can program your ATA and get a DID for $35 a year. No NP though.<br> </DIV>No Porting, thats what kills gizmo project atleast for me.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1301123"><b>kieranmullen</b></A> : &raquo;<A HREF="http://gizmoproject.com" >gizmoproject.com</A> is great. You can program your ATA and get a DID for $35 a year. No NP though.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/0"><b>anon</b></A> : Better and more reliable deals:<br><br>1)gizmoproject + grandcentral; 2)callcentric; 3) voicepulse $14.95 plan 4) voicebroad $9.95 plan 5) vonage $14.95.<br><br>All of above are more reliable and cheap. And four of them have caller ID with NAME.  None of them has less than 5 rings to voicemail. ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1021902"><b>jeffnyc</b></A> : Wonder why my friends has no charge for GA numbers...<br><br>Connect Date (GMT):  8/8/2007 9:03:53<br>Description: USA-Georgia<br>Number: 1770882xxxx<br>Minutes: 3<br>Charge: 0]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1021902"><b>jeffnyc</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  SteveinNC <A HREF="/useremail/u/1471207"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</SMALL><BR><BR>I don't think anyone has a better deal..<br><br>Been with VS almost 1 month from SR and the cost has been a total of $1.00. <br><br>Can't get into my VM since my ported number became active in about 6 days from the initial order. I'm not even trying to figure out the VM. I'll wait another week or two to call their CS.<br><br>I use my home answering machine and can fax every time with my VS line. <br><br>I'm certainly getting what I pay for.<br> </DIV>You can dial 14040000000 from your Voicestick phone to access voicemail.   Depending on adapter you can change dialplan to have 00 dial this.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/521177"><b>teledatatech</b></A> : At this point I am still satisfied with Voicestick and plan<br>staying with them. I wish hoever I could get a local number, even though the one I have now is still a local call to those calling me from the town I'm in.<br><SMALL>--<br>Embarq DSL 1500/586 | Voicestick  | Skype</SMALL>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1471207"><b>SteveinNC</b></A> : I don't think anyone has a better deal..<br><br>Been with VS almost 1 month from SR and the cost has been a total of $1.00. <br><br>Can't get into my VM since my ported number became active in about 6 days from the initial order. I'm not even trying to figure out the VM. I'll wait another week or two to call their CS.<br><br>I use my home answering machine and can fax every time with my VS line. <br><br>I'm certainly getting what I pay for.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1021902"><b>jeffnyc</b></A> : Poor Voicestick.....  trying to make a little profit and people start jumping ship :)<br><br>I am curious - who do you think has a better deal even with the charges?<br><br>Just trying to see it from both perspectives...]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1040472"><b>PJIV</b></A> : I just sent the following...<br><br>Since you have changed your terms I want a refund.  I tried out your service, and it was okay when incomming calls were free, but for you to change now.  Well I have used a total of $0.06 of my initial $10.  Since you are now giving away $5.00 in calling on new accounts.  I think it fair to forgo the $0.06 and give me my full $10.00 back and cancel my account.<br><br>We'll see what happens.  I think it sucks, but what can you do.  I only was using them as a backup.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/0"><b>anon</b></A> : Just call my credit card company to get my money back.  ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1021902"><b>jeffnyc</b></A> : I just noticed that even if an incoming call goes to voicemail you are still charged.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1021902"><b>jeffnyc</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  gimp55 <A HREF="/useremail/u/859727"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>   :</SMALL><BR><BR>does the VS 400 USA and Canada $9.99 per month include free incoming calls if so looks like it would be best to upgrade to it as i usally add $10 a month anyway.  <br> </DIV>Good point.  The N2N actually worked out to be cheaper than the $9.99 plan.  The 9.99 has about a $2 (maybe a little less) 911 fee.   To spend $10 or even $12 with the N2N plan thats a lot more minutes.  The $9.99 plan would need to include incoming minutes to make it worth it.<br><br>I know I didnt answer your question but there is no info on the site.  As a matter of fact they still have the 2 cents a minute rate posted for excess minutes over the 400 which I do not think is correct.<br><br>Another strange thing is that my friend has an Atlanta number (where they are based) and he has a lot of no charge calls in his call history ???]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/859727"><b>gimp55</b></A> : does the VS 400 USA and Canada $9.99 per month include free incoming calls if so looks like it would be best to upgrade to it as i usally add $10 a month anyway.  ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1021902"><b>jeffnyc</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  Quattrohead <A HREF="/useremail/u/1156045"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>  :</SMALL><BR><BR>Now this pisses me off, used the i2bridge to call the UK. Got charged for both legs of the call. Oh well, use up my credit and move on.<br><br> </DIV>Yeah, that is messed up.  When they first did the upgrade a quirk was that they charged you to check Voicemail.  I am hoping this is a quirk of their implementation of incoming call charges.<br><br>I all of us reading this forum should email them to complain about being charged for the double leg.... if they get enough complaints maybe they will fix it... and I hardly use i2bridge.<br><br>customersupport@support.i2telecom.com<br><br>Hmmm, maybe it would have been worth it to take the unlimited $199 plan with the free SR months.  Then after it ended you could switch to the N2N plan and ride on the free $50 credit for awhile (I don't make many intl calls)]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1366194"><b>voip_user</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  jethro <A HREF="/useremail/u/576441"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</SMALL><BR><BR>If you attempt to order the N2N, it says Free but $4.95 per additional.:<br>   <br>  $ FREE  Next2Nothing&#65533; ($4.95 for Each Additional Account) <br> <br> <br> </DIV>That $4.95 is charged only if you have second account. They look for certain fields like address on new account if you have another N2N service on same address they will charge that $4.95 on second line]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/574294"><b>Merconium</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  jeffnyc <A HREF="/useremail/u/1021902"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</SMALL><BR><BR><div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  Merconium <A HREF="/useremail/u/574294"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>  :</SMALL><BR><BR>I just changed to VS two days ago thinking incoming calls were free... grrrr.<br> </DIV>did u port?<br> </DIV>Not yet. I'm gonna see what our usage looks like for a few more days before I decide what to do (which sucks, of course, because our number is still disconnected thanks to SR).]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/576441"><b>jethro</b></A> : If you attempt to order the N2N, it says Free but $4.95 per additional.:<br>   <br>  $ FREE  Next2Nothing&#65533; ($4.95 for Each Additional Account) <br> <br> ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1273917"><b>N9MD</b></A> : It appears that --- not only are incoming calls $.0118 per minute --- but if you log in and click on "Change Plan", the N2N selection shows a $4.95/month charge.  Yet the home page shows FREE.<br><br>One of my VS N2N #s for some reason continually gets incoming wrong numbers --- which up until now has not cost me anything.  The incoming calls --- in fact <B>no incoming calls</B> --- are showing in my call logs --- making it tough to determine incoming usage.  Only my deposited funds keep going down, down, down, down.<br><br>But ---with no monthly fee --- the outgoing and incoming minute calls are still relatively inexpensive for low usage or backup usage folks.  I ain't complaining.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/603171"><b>slow mo</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  Quattrohead <A HREF="/useremail/u/1156045"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</SMALL><BR><BR>Now this pisses me off, used the i2bridge to call the UK. Got charged for both legs of the call. Oh well, use up my credit and move on.<br><br>8/16/2007 7:57:50 PM&#9;United Kingdom&#9;441424xxxxxx&#9;34&#9;0.33<br>8/16/2007 7:57:50 PM&#9;INCOMING&#9;1413xxxxxxx&#9;34&#9;0.40<br> </DIV>Same here to Ireland. i2Bridge was so great and that's why I've had VS for more than a year. It's just not as a good deal to be charged on both legs now.<br><br>Well, as you said, use up the money and move on.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1156045"><b>Quattrohead</b></A> : Now this pisses me off, used the i2bridge to call the UK. Got charged for both legs of the call. Oh well, use up my credit and move on.<br><br>8/16/2007 7:57:50 PM&#9;United Kingdom&#9;441424xxxxxx&#9;34&#9;0.33<br>8/16/2007 7:57:50 PM&#9;INCOMING&#9;1413xxxxxxx&#9;34&#9;0.40]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/160346"><b>cbrain</b></A> : &raquo;<small>https</small>://<A HREF="https://www.voicestick.com/MyAccount/Index.aspx">www.voicestick.com/MyAccount/Index.aspx</A><br><br>My Account<br><br>BILLING CHANGE -<br>We are now charging the extremely low rate of $0.0118 per minute for inbound Calls.<br>To avoid service interruption: Customers without Unlimited Calling Plans must have prepaid funds available to cover the cost of these calls]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1021902"><b>jeffnyc</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  Merconium <A HREF="/useremail/u/574294"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</SMALL><BR><BR>I just changed to VS two days ago thinking incoming calls were free... grrrr.<br> </DIV>did u port?]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 23:31:11 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/574294"><b>Merconium</b></A> : I just changed to VS two days ago thinking incoming calls were free... grrrr.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 23:28:51 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/160346"><b>cbrain</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  jeffnyc <A HREF="/useremail/u/1021902"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</SMALL><BR><BR>The fact is they have started charging. And it no longer states anywhere in their site that incoming calls are free.  Any incoming calls you receive, you will now see in your call history with a deduction from your balance.<br> </DIV>OK ... OK ... you wore me down ... I give up.  <br><br>But, weren't you on my side of the table when we started?   ;)]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1366194"><b>voip_user</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  cbrain <A HREF="/useremail/u/160346"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</SMALL><BR><BR>I haven't seen an announcement yet.  Why don't we wait until it is official that VoiceStick is billing for incoming before we accept it, or make favorable comparisons to competitors.  If I were marketing director and read this thread, I would conclude it was time to charge for incoming whether it was planed or not.   ;)<br> </DIV>Ahh and i thought director of marketing would be repsonsible for 'marketing' the product and not deciding what the product should be. May be thats why i am not a marketing director :)]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1021902"><b>jeffnyc</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  cbrain <A HREF="/useremail/u/160346"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</SMALL><BR><BR>I haven't seen an announcement yet.  Why don't we wait until it is official that VoiceStick is billing for incoming before we accept it, or make favorable comparisons to competitors.  If I were marketing director and read this thread, I would conclude it was time to charge for incoming whether it was planed or not.   ;)<br> </DIV>The fact is they have started charging. And it no longer states anywhere in their site that incoming calls are free.  Any incoming calls you receive, you will now see in your call history with a deduction from your balance.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1054082"><b>voipjunk</b></A> : Excellent Point, I'm not voiplover but I'm Junk. I'm on next2nothing plan for last 1 year, had outage so many times but couldn't complain because that was the best plan in whole voip market. But if they are changing this then they have to analyze themselves how competitive they are in terms for reliability & customer service and not to start charging customers over night.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/0"><b>anon</b></A> :  betamax is changing their rates without notice, but they still offers 120days  free calls to some countries,VOIP companies,can be running business today ,but can be another SR tomorrow, I won't sign for long term contract to any company.<br> I got my free 515-xxx-xxxx from freedigits, forward this free number to any number I want (it needs a betamax voip provider), just my 2 cents.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/160346"><b>cbrain</b></A> : I haven't seen an announcement yet.  Why don't we wait until it is official that VoiceStick is billing for incoming before we accept it, or make favorable comparisons to competitors.  If I were marketing director and read this thread, I would conclude it was time to charge for incoming whether it was planed or not.   ;)]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1021902"><b>jeffnyc</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  slow mo <A HREF="/useremail/u/603171"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</SMALL><BR><BR>How about numbers within VS network calling each other?<br> </DIV>I am pretty sure all VS to VS are still free.<br><br>Also, not that some of you may consider this significant but I believe incoming calls are being charged at $0.012 not $0.01,  a 5 min incoming call costs 6 cents.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 11:57:22 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1357665"><b>navin2004</b></A> : This is from VS Terms of Service....<br><br>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>10. CHANGES TO THE AGREEMENT, SERVICES OR PLAN. i2telecom reserves the right to make changes to the terms and conditions of this Agreement, the Services and/or the Plan ("Change of Service"). In the event of a Change of Service, i2telecom will notify the End User at least ten (10) days in advance of the date on which the Change of Service is to take effect ("Change Date"). Any Change of Service charges will be applied to the End User's account as appropriate, pro rata as calculated from the Change Date. End User can, within ten (10) days of i2telecom's notification, send notice to i2telecom stating that the End User does not accept the Change of Service, and can terminate this Agreement. In such event, End User will be responsible for any sums due hereunder in addition to any applicable disconnection fees. If the End User does not send i2telecom notification of their desire to terminate this Agreement or uses the Services after the Change Date, the End User is deemed to have accepted and consented to the Change of Service. End User may request a Plan change at anytime, a change of service fee, termination fee, and or other terms and conditions may apply. <br>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><br><br>They clearly violated there own TOS by not giving a notice.<br><br>And if they are going to charge for incoming to makes sure they recover a minimum amount per month from N2N plans, then they should now allow calls to 1-800 numbers of calling cards and not charge airtime for that. It's not fair when they don't have customer support folks to look at why outbound calling to some international destination does not work when calling direcly, while at the same time not letting those folks use a calling card to call that same destination. In my opinion that is restricting full use of what at the end of the day is a "phone line".]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1366194"><b>voip_user</b></A> : Yes Voicestick's N2N plan is good and they are really ahead of their competition by a mile in terms of overall cost. Now that things have changed and they are billing for incoming calls that margin of cost advantage has reduced<br><br>They may very well still be the cheapest but the margin has reduced. With free incoming calls it was very easy to overlook some of their shortcomings (reliability, not able to call certain 800 numbers for conference calls, issues accessing VM, poor customer service etc ..). Now things will be different.<br><br>Let me give an example earlier we could make 1200 minutes calls for $15, now it would be 600 outgoing minutes and 600 incoming minutes. There are lot of operators (like VT) who charge about the same (VT has $15 for 500 minute plan)]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1015096"><b>voiplover</b></A> : I just want to point out that for us, every penny that we have given Voicestick so far has been worth it. Call quality has been good. Better than any of the others that I have tried at around those prices. I don't expect that I'm paying for any CS support time at those rates so I have never contacted them...<br><br>If latter down the road the prices increase more than it is worth to us then I'll reconsider or just let my prepaid credits die. So far so good!  :)]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1471022"><b>dualsub2006</b></A> : Everyone in the business is higher that .01 on incoming calls. Skype is still the undisputed leader if you are only calling the US or Canada on outbound rates but they are still higher than .01 a minute for inbound. And hey, haven't been able to log in to Skype much lately so you guys don't have it so bad.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1438875"><b>hfrisch</b></A> : Then I would have been out part of the $10 or so max balance that the account has (usually less - maybe an average of $5 or $6) - same as what I'll be out if they go under.   Even with $0.01 for incoming, their N2N plan still looks like the best deal around for low volume calling.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/308189"><b>celtic</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  hfrisch <A HREF="/useremail/u/1438875"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</SMALL><BR><BR>... They don't seem so good on communication - but the service works well and is pretty cost effective for me.<br> </DIV>That's good.  And we have a choice as to which provider we use.  What if this change made it not cost effective and you didn't find out until after you made your choice?]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1438875"><b>hfrisch</b></A> : Notice would have been good, but they also cut their outbound US rate from $0.02 to $0.012 without notice and they upgraded their servers by sending an e-mail at 3PM saying that the upgrade will take place at 2PM.  They don't seem so good on communication - but the service works well and is pretty cost effective for me.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1015096"><b>voiplover</b></A> : Yes, you are right. Notice would have been the right thing.<br>My guess is that we will see that soon. I also would not have know if I wasn't reading it here.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/735865"><b>meb</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  voiplover <A HREF="/useremail/u/1015096"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</SMALL><BR><BR>I still consider the N2N plan as a gift from them.  :)<br>They owe me nothing and I know that they need to make about $5/month to break even. I've enjoyed the free incoming but expected this to happen a while ago. Without a monthly min I'm going to stay around. It has been a good backup and is an excellent plan for those with broadband and just a cell phone.<br> </DIV>But why not give notice?  What is next?  If I didn't see it here I might not have enough on deposit to cover the increased billing.  Would they cut me off without notice?  I'll wait for comment from VoiceStick and hope it comes soon.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1015096"><b>voiplover</b></A> : I still consider the N2N plan as a gift from them.  :)<br>They owe me nothing and I know that they need to make about $5/month to break even. I've enjoyed the free incoming but expected this to happen a while ago. Without a monthly min I'm going to stay around. It has been a good backup and is an excellent plan for those with broadband and just a cell phone.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1357665"><b>navin2004</b></A> : I just saw my call logs and was suprised to see this.<br>Sneaky way of doing this without informing.<br><br>As it is they don't let you call tollfree numbers of calling card providers and if they are now going to charge incoming calls too, then it's like a cellphone with a wire stuck to your Gimzo.<br>I now have to pay for stupid incoming telemarketing calls.<br><br>I took there service because of this and free in-network calling. My port-in was just completed 2 days back.<br><br>I wish voipvoip starts some unlimited calling type plans, as there customer service is way better. I signed up with them and then cancelled after seeing voicestick.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/603171"><b>slow mo</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  voip_user <A HREF="/useremail/u/1366194"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</SMALL><BR><BR>I just noticed this today in my call logs<br><br>8/16/2007 6:05:33 PM INCOMING INBOUND RATE 1 0.01 <br><br>Anybody else see such charges. I believe their biggest advantage over other similar providers was free unimited incoming calls but looks like that is changing. Time to evaluate if it is worth staying with them after this.<br> </DIV>How about numbers within VS network calling each other?]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/637921"><b>mazilo</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  voipjunk <A HREF="/useremail/u/1054082"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</SMALL><BR><BR>This is ridiculous, Any company should not change the plan without informing subscribers.</DIV>Perhaps, it is time to let the FEDs intervene? Where is BruceN when we need him? ;)]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1054082"><b>voipjunk</b></A> : This is ridiculous, Any company should not change the plan without informing subscribers. I think VOIP industry in US is really not caring anything about Law and rights. We have seen Sunrocket shutdown, now this... I think its really a time to stay with a good company or stick to Magicjack.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/160346"><b>cbrain</b></A> : On the plus side, we now have incoming call logs.  I suppose it's better than closing the business without notice ... and I don't begrudge the money ... but I really resent such a precedent.  It's like a restaurant raising prices after taking your order.  The difference between earning and cheating.  I'll wait until this all settles and hope it is a mistake or they have a good explanation.  If not ... how can we trust any terms.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1021902"><b>jeffnyc</b></A> : wow... i had a feeling that was coming since i couldnt find it posted anywhere on their site recently that incoming calls were included.... i agree this was a major advantage of voicestick<br><br>even though i have magicjack, i would still use voicestick because they hold my number and i want them to consider my account active - with this change i may have to shift more to magicjack for outgoing....<br><br>you have to admit, the n2n plan is still a great plan... dont forget you are not paying any taxes/fees on top of it which with some voips amount to several bucks a month... at 1 cent a minute thats an offset for a few hundred incoming minutes<br><br>voicestick does have to have a viable business model to make profit otherwise they may follow the sun :)   i just wish their customer service was at the level it was in the days when bruce was an active participant in this forum...<br><br>matt - you still on this forum???]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1470709"><b>ice5428</b></A> : Yup, incoming calls are now .01 per minute.  No emails explaining this from voicestick.  I emailed them and have received no reply.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1366194"><b>voip_user</b></A> : I just noticed this today in my call logs<br><br>8/16/2007 6:05:33 PM INCOMING INBOUND RATE 1 0.01 <br><br>Anybody else see such charges. I believe their biggest advantage over other similar providers was free unimited incoming calls but looks like that is changing. Time to evaluate if it is worth staying with them after this.]]></description>
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