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Mount Airy, MD | Insanity This article is nothing but sensationalist drivel. Instead of making Corey Taylor look like some sort of "hero" it should have pointed out that he could have simply paid full price for his phone, or gotten a prepaid phone, and not be bound to any contract.
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| said by pnh102:This article is nothing but sensationalist drivel. Instead of making Corey Taylor look like some sort of "hero" it should have pointed out that he could have simply paid full price for his phone, or gotten a prepaid phone, and not be bound to any contract. But Verizon doesnt play fair, if you change any option or your plan they extend it another 2yrs. How is that far, the equipment you purchased is still aging. Once you sign a contract the max it should be allowed is 2 yrs, even if you change your plan or features. Hence why i avoid Verizon.
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WRONG ANSWER !
You go in to a store with your unlocked phone, and try signing up "free of contract". You will still be thrown in a 2 year contract or at best 1 year. |
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Apex, NC | reply to DaveDude
Close, but not quite. You sign a new 2-year contract when you change plans, meaning 2 years from the date of change, not 4 years from the date you purchased your last handset (2 year contract on the phone plus 2 years for the plan change). Also, 22 months after you've purchased your phone (even if you've extended your contract by changing plans in the meantime) you can get discount pricing on a new phone, provided you sign a new 2-year contract. As with the plan change, the commitment is 2 years from the latest change.
What it essentially means is that Verizon lets anyone out of a 2-year contract penalty-free if they sign a new 2-year contract for any reason (e.g. phone or plan change).
I, as I'm sure along with many others, would love to see Verizon change their term fee so it's pro-rated. I'm not holding my breath, though...  |
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Mount Airy, MD | reply to DaveDude
said by DaveDude:But Verizon doesnt play fair, if you change any option or your plan they extend it another 2yrs. If this is true and it is specified in the contract, and someone does it anyway and then whines about being locked in for another 2 years, whose fault is it?
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Mount Airy, MD | reply to OneCell4u
said by OneCell4u :
WRONG ANSWER !
You go in to a store with your unlocked phone, and try signing up "free of contract". Where did I claim that you could do this?
As I stated before, you can buy a phone full price from the provider, or get a prepaid phone, and not be bound by any contract.
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said by pnh102:said by DaveDude:But Verizon doesnt play fair, if you change any option or your plan they extend it another 2yrs. If this is true and it is specified in the contract, and someone does it anyway and then whines about being locked in for another 2 years, whose fault is it? You missed the point "hence why i avoid Verizon" However ATT has something in there contracts they you cant be in class action suit against them. Which was just stuck down in court. I dont see how changing a plan, requires extending a contract, its cheating.
This shows yet again carriers need to seperated from there handsets, just like in Europe. It should mandated into law. |
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Mount Airy, MD | said by DaveDude:This shows yet again carriers need to seperated from there handsets, just like in Europe. It should mandated into law. Then everyone is going to have to pay full price for their handsets.
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| said by pnh102:said by DaveDude:This shows yet again carriers need to seperated from there handsets, just like in Europe. It should mandated into law. Then everyone is going to have to pay full price for their handsets. Just like at home, which we have be doing since 1984. That seem to work out well. My current handset is unlocked and unbranded, i dont plan on signing a contract unless i get a sweet deal, otherwise i am month to month. |
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Mount Airy, MD | said by DaveDude:Just like at home, which we have be doing since 1984. That seem to work out well. My current handset is unlocked and unbranded, i dont plan on signing a contract unless i get a sweet deal, otherwise i am month to month. Well right now we have many choices to not require a contract and we have many choices which do require a contract. Why not maintain that status quo?
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| said by pnh102:said by DaveDude:Just like at home, which we have be doing since 1984. That seem to work out well. My current handset is unlocked and unbranded, i dont plan on signing a contract unless i get a sweet deal, otherwise i am month to month. Well right now we have many choices to not require a contract and we have many choices which do require a contract. Why not maintain that status quo? Zero in here, The point is the handset is locked because of the contract. The status quo is lame, see Verizon handsets vs gsm handsets across europe. There is no comparison.
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Mount Airy, MD | said by DaveDude:Zero in here, The point is the handset is locked because of the contract. That's not a big deal. There are numerous 3rd party unlocking services that can fix this. But even if you can unlock phones, you cannot use a phone from AT&T or T-Mobile with AT&T or Verizon because of technological limitations.
said by DaveDude:The status quo is lame, see Verizon handsets vs gsm handsets across europe. There is no comparison. Somehow I don't think many people will be relishing the idea of paying full price for their cell phones.
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Milpitas, CA | reply to Fisamo
said by Fisamo:Close, but not quite. You sign a new 2-year contract when you change plans Huh? When you do a plan change on Verizon Wireless, you are in contract for one year from the current date, or to the end of your current contract, whichever is later. Been there, done that, two months ago, just verified it online. When you buy a phone, they advertise the two-year contract price, but you can also get it for a one year contract, at a higher price (generally by about $50). And the early termination fee IS prorated. |
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said by DaveDude:But Verizon doesnt play fair, if you change any option or your plan they extend it another 2yrs. How is that far, the equipment you purchased is still aging. Once you sign a contract the max it should be allowed is 2 yrs, even if you change your plan or features. Hence why i avoid Verizon. It's amazing how much essentially wrong information is out there:
- VZW does offer 1-year or 2-year contracts, and it's possible to get onto either one.
- Since the end of last year VZW does have variable/prorated ETF where it decreases the ETF by $5/month for every month of service you've completed on your contract.
- You can upgrade your phone at discounted pricing after 10 months on a 1-year contract, and after 20 months on a 2-year contract.
- When you change your plan (not features, those do not have any effect on your contract) there are no contract extensions, just perhaps a contract renewal, and only a 1-year one at most--if you are not on a contract or have less than 1 year remaining on your contract then you would simply start a 1-year contract on the date of your plan change, in all other cases (like you are in the first year of your 2-year contract) your contract date wouldn't be affected at all. Furthermore, none of the equipment upgrade eligibility dates (or NE2) are affected by contract changes when/if they happen. |
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said by pnh102:said by DaveDude:Zero in here, The point is the handset is locked because of the contract. That's not a big deal. There are numerous 3rd party unlocking services that can fix this. But even if you can unlock phones, you cannot use a phone from AT&T or T-Mobile with AT&T or Verizon because of technological limitations. said by DaveDude:The status quo is lame, see Verizon handsets vs gsm handsets across europe. There is no comparison. Somehow I don't think many people will be relishing the idea of paying full price for their cell phones. You can use any unlocked gsm 800/1900 handset on ATT, or tmobile i have done this for years. Verizon doesnt allow you to use anything unbranded. |
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