 keisur
join:2001-12-27 Houston, TX
1 edit | reply to elios Re: unions hate them? all the more reason to USE them!
"ok that gives me 40 bucks more a month school here for my track would run me at lest 400 bucks in books another 200 for lab time and then classes alone would be 500 a semester i make maybe 1000 a month (FUCK YOU crappy job) my rent is 400 a month + power water and food"
LOL, You don't seem to realize that at your income level you would be able to get about every grant there is (which would cover room/board/books). You don't have to pay grants back. Then you'd only need a small portion of the actual repayable student loan to suppliment. A student loan is what I was talking about. take some initiative if life is such crap for you, hell, with the experience and knowledge you claim to have in IT, I could get you a job at my company making 80k+/year, no papers needed. |
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  elios
join:2005-11-15 Springfield, MO | want to give an interview then? i seem to get turned down every were else |
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 jc100
join:2002-04-10
| reply to keisur Keiser is oblivious to the fact that grants are not handed out like water. Grants are competitive since they do not have to be paid back. In the real world, not keiser's fantasy one, many people compete for that one source of money. Your odds of getting even a little chunk of it are pretty slim. Hence, most people are left to borrow and be in debt. Your average college grad probably leaves with 60-100,000 for four years of study. That's a nice long while of paying + interest to 0 it out. Hell, they wanted 7.5 percent on my student loan of 11-12,000. That would have turned it in to 20 grand if I followed their scale. Imagine what those above figures would be? Hence, keseir, unions are needed to ensure your hard work DOES PAY OFF. How would you like to study for 4-6 years, and be offered jobs that paid like crap? You might respond, well then you look for others. Easier said than done of course, with a lackluster job market and the promise that most jobs in a profession pay pretty standard. Hence, without those unions, you could give the guarantee of a decent wage goodbye since most jobs have the upper hand. Work for us and take what you get, or find something better. We'll fill this slot either way. That is the mentality of the world today, and unions (while imperfect) at least tone down this mentality. |
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 keisur
join:2001-12-27 Houston, TX
1 edit | You have to try at least, which obviously you don't have the ambition to do. Secondly, I was able to secure a Pell Grant all four years of my schooling even though my parents claimed me on there taxes and made decent salaries, they just wouldn't pay for college. What jc100 is oblivious to is that there are different kinds of grants, ones that are close to impossible to obtain and ones that are given to the ones that need them. in this guys case, making only $250/week or whatever it was would not have a problem at all getting some of these grants. like I said, which lazy people such as yourself cannot seem to grasp onto, is that it takes some work and ambition but it IS doable if the person actually wants it and doesn't want to ride on the coat tails of the tax payers. |
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 keisur
join:2001-12-27 Houston, TX
| reply to jc100 "Hence, without those unions, you could give the guarantee of a decent wage goodbye since most jobs have the upper hand."
Enter the illegal mexican work force. That's what's driving cost and wages up these days, lol, welcome to the 21st century, Hoffa is dead. |
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