how-to block ads
|
|
Share Topic
 |
 |
|
|
RayWPremium
join:2001-09-01
Layton, UT
kudos:1 | reply to Fox McCloud
Re: Fragile Network said by Fox McCloud:said by skj:Pretty scary that something as "simple" as this action could have such an impact on the internet. Something to think about in terms of terrorist attacks. or how easy the government could shut the 'net down if they wanted v_v. Considering that when the gov owned the internet it was designed to be a bit more robust, but when the industry took over they gave up the robustness in the name of profits, I think that you may be a bit off the mark. Not that there is not a problem, just the finger pointing (plus the gov depends on the net too much also).
--
I am not lost, I find myself every time. | |
 major marcoRes Firma Mitescere NescitPremium
join:2003-02-13
Stepford, CA | said by RayW:Considering that when the gov owned the internet it was designed to be a bit more robust, but when the industry took over they gave up the robustness in the name of profits, I think that you may be a bit off the mark. Not that there is not a problem, just the finger pointing (plus the gov depends on the net too much also). Especially since the feds now have carte blanche to monitor anyone, anytime, anywhere. We're fighting the terrarists here so we don't have to fight them over there, er, I mean we're fighting the terrarists there so we can listen in on Americans private communications here. Because you never know when them dumb terrarists will hiding under your bed or sending email via AOHell. We have to monitor everything all the time just to be sure.
--
The Toll
| |
RayWPremium
join:2001-09-01
Layton, UT
kudos:1 | said by major marco:]Especially since the feds now have carte blanche to monitor anyone, anytime, anywhere. We're fighting the terrarists here so we don't have to fight them over there, er, I mean we're fighting the terrarists there so we can listen in on Americans private communications here. Because you never know when them dumb terrarists will hiding under your bed or sending email via AOHell. We have to monitor everything all the time just to be sure. I love idiot trolls, so I will give you a response (plus I am bored). You high schoolers do not have any background to know that what you consider new is actually rather old. Surveillance of the populous was done even earlier from what those in the business of doing so who are older than me say. The only difference between the 2000's and the 1950's, 60's, 70's, 80's, and 90's is that the technology for doing surveillance keeps getting better, and we are doing more activities today that make it easier to do the surveillance.
As far as carte blanche, if you just consider the technology available and the use of said technology today vice even 10 years ago, surveillance has done nothing more than keep up with the times (well, that is a small misstatement, the gov is still behind the curve in most cases). And yes, in the 80's often a warrant was applied for after the fact, depending on what 'they' were doing.
How do I know some of this? I made a trip overseas in the early 90's to Australia. After I got back I was told by someone I knew in a certain government agency that I should behave myself because I was now on another organization's watch list, low level, but one none the less. Oh well, I have not noticed any affect on my travel to other countries or my job.
If I want privacy from corporate surveillance (and the feds) I just use the library computer for research and pay cash for all purchases. I will let them monitor the credit card using, internet surfing, cell phone talking (none of which were widely available to most people 30 years ago other than gas and store cards) public which creates a monitoring task that probably allows me to slide under the radar in most cases.
--
I am not lost, I find myself every time. | |
| reply to RayW
said by RayW:said by Fox McCloud:said by skj:Pretty scary that something as "simple" as this action could have such an impact on the internet. Something to think about in terms of terrorist attacks. or how easy the government could shut the 'net down if they wanted v_v. Considering that when the gov owned the internet it was designed to be a bit more robust, but when the industry took over they gave up the robustness in the name of profits, I think that you may be a bit off the mark. Not that there is not a problem, just the finger pointing (plus the gov depends on the net too much also). that's not the point I was making; I was merely stating that if the government wanted to cut off Internet access (or at least GREATLY hinder it), they could...very easily. | | |
|
RayWPremium
join:2001-09-01
Layton, UT
kudos:1 | said by Fox McCloud:that's not the point I was making; I was merely stating that if the government wanted to cut off Internet access (or at least GREATLY hinder it), they could...very easily. True, just pay certain companies enough money.
--
I am not lost, I find myself every time. | |
|
