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Moves like this are a sign of capitalism-

if only an an American worker could go anywhere in the world to work... seems like companies can go anywhere, but we can't.
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reply to bamabrad

Re: Moves like this are a sign of idiot Management

Big companies are worried about consumer loss, and I know because I used to be a Manager for SBC.

They're really only concerned with big business accounts, as there margins are better. For a company like AT&T, consumers are essentially a necessary evil.

reply to wifi4milez

Re: Moves like this are a sign of capitalism-

reply to wifi4milez
Really? Who watches my kid while I'm in India? Is that even practical?

You people seem to think that being a migrant worker is a good thing. I don't understand your point of view at all. If this keeps up I see no reason for "workers" to even purchase a home. What would that do to the economy and the wealth balance in this country? Back to the land owners vs. the peasants.

I listen to right wing talk radio and they tell me I should retrain myself for a new job. That's funny, because the same talk show will tell me I need to spend more time with my children because the fabric of society in America is deteriorating. Which should I do?

We're all about two steps away from migrant workers. I laugh at people who think they are above being outsourced. Last year someone else said the same thing...now they are outsourced. I would think working in a hospital ER would be a secure job but its not. Now your X-rays get sent overseas where someone in India makes a life or death decision about your health. Scary eh?

Here's an old poem for you to ponder:
First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out -
because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out -
because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out -
because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me - and there was no one left to speak for me.

Your job is next. Don't be fooled.

This is the reason why: corporate greed. AT&T/SBC/Bellsouth/Pacbell hasn't lost a dime in over 50 years. Hell, they make BILLIONS a year in PROFIT. If they were losing money I would understand why they need to trim some fat but they're not, not even close.

Another thing is that AT&T lobbied the State of Missouri for video legislation that would benefit them and now they want to cut 400+ jobs from Missouri. This is where the majority of "ASI" is located. This isn't the first time AT&T/SBC promised big things to a state and then screwed them later and will probably not be the last.

Do you know ASI has 1 manager for every 12 employees and nearly all 400 employees sit on the same floor in the same building? Most office managers have twice that many employees to mismanage..err, manage. Talk about trimming some fat...

reply to wifi4milez
You cannot work legally anywhere except in the US and US protected territories, unless you obtain work authorization. The idea of "working legally" is without formalities.

There are many countries that will NOT issue work authorization to foreigners. Most countries will make you jump through hoops to get a work visa. One of the more difficult countries to get a work visa in for foreigners is the USA ... the limitations generally mean that unless you are absolutely gifted with PhDs up to your armpits, or you're a gifted sportsman, or an internationally recognized entertainer, your chance of working in the US in a timely manner for a prospective employer drop dramatically.

It's easier for a company to contract with an offshore support company than it is to bring those same workers to the USA.

reply to howiehandles

Re: Moves like this are a sign of idiot Management

reply to wifi4milez

Re: Moves like this are a sign of capitalism-

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reply to wifi4milez
You said that as an American you can work legally in any country in the world (except Cuba). Not true. If you'd said that the US gov't imposes few restrictions on you working abroad, then I'd agree, but you chose to virtually ignore your potential host country's role in the matter.

You also make it sound like a simple process to get a work visa. Again, in most countries, far from true. Try it some time and see all the red tape.

reply to FAQFixer
So tell me; When do I have time to go to school, work, and PROPERLY raise my children? I've already been to college and got the degree that was so desperately sought after at the time but now, 10 years later, it is worthless. WTF did I do wrong? I followed all the rules. I need another degree but now I have a mortgage, kids, a wife, and I still need to work. When was I not responsible? I'm not saying it's impossible but is it ideal? Hell no.

I guess if I had nothing I would have nothing to lose. Ahhhh, that's it! Corporate America doesn't want me to have anything. I get it now. Thanks.
Soon I'll be able to go to work for Walmart buy all my goods from Walmart, and live in a house that Walmart so graciously provides for me. That way all my salary goes back to my employer. Sounds like days of kings and peasants. And yes I am comparing AT&T to Walmart.

There's a reason unions were formed. People who don't know history (or too cocky to acknowledge it) are doomed to repeat it.

reply to bb1852

Re: Moves like this are a sign of idiot Management