HA Nut
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Re: Why does Windows Defender Get such a Bad Rep?
said by ElJay  :I think the main error MS made was incorporating the definitions into Windows Update. It works of course, but it's an extremely inefficient way to do it. I was VERY unhappy when this happened too. At the time MS made the change, they acted as though it was an inspired decision...  |
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ElJay
join:2004-03-17 | reply to Woody79_00
Re: Why does Windows Defender Get such a Bad Rep?
I think the main error MS made was incorporating the definitions into Windows Update. It works of course, but it's an extremely inefficient way to do it. |
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AB
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said by JTM1051 :said by AB :... Depends on how bashful you're feeling today, I guess. ... If he truly is bashful, doubt if he would bash the basher ... would he?  I meant 'full of bash'. "Bash-full". (Mye englesh iz knott so goode sumtymes.) 
He could bash those who would bash the bashers. If he weren't bashful, that is. Or maybe if he were. Bash full, that is.
(*O.T.-- Anybody know what the sound of one hand clapping is? TIA!) |
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jouno53
Palin 2012
join:2006-03-04
United State | reply to JTM1051
If he did, I would bash the bashful bash basher.  |
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JTM1051
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Moorpark, CA
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said by AB :... Depends on how bashful you're feeling today, I guess. ... If he truly is bashful, doubt if he would bash the basher ... would he? |
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AB
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Leesburg, VA
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said by jouno53 :I didn't specify that people were bashing in this thread. I just said "I hate when people bash things for no reason." That doesn't pertain to this thread at all, it's a generality. I see people bash defender all the time in anti-spyware threads. When you're the 1200 lb. gorilla, you and your products are going to get bashed a little-- sometimes for good reason, sometimes not. Just the way it is.
It gets a little out of hand occasionally, I'll grant you. Been guilty myself a time or two.
said by StraitShoot :Can I "Bash" The "Bash Basher"?...LOL  Depends on how bashful you're feeling today, I guess.
But if you do-- please don't hold back.
There's nothing worse than a perfectly good rant or bash that loses all steam right in the middle. |
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jouno53
Palin 2012
join:2006-03-04
United State | reply to AB
I didn't specify that people were bashing in this thread. I just said "I hate when people bash things for no reason." That doesn't pertain to this thread at all, it's a generality. I see people bash defender all the time in anti-spyware threads. |
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StraitShoot
Who Loves Ya Baby? - Theo Kojak
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Can I "Bash" The "Bash Basher"?...LOL |
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AB
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said by jouno53 :I love Windows Defender. . . . . . I hate when people bash things for no reason. It's really, really immature. Could you point out please where anyone posting in this thread is bashing Windows Defender for no reason? Or for a reason, for that matter. Thanks.
I just read through the posts and don't see any bashing-- except for you bashing bashers, that is. |
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jouno53
Palin 2012
join:2006-03-04
United State | reply to Woody79_00
I love Windows Defender. It's fast, doesn't bog anything down, and has awesome Real Time protection. It's a set and forget... what's wrong with that?
I hate when people bash things for no reason. It's really, really immature. |
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JTM1051
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join:2000-07-08
Moorpark, CA
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said by no go :
The reason I don't like WD, and am not running it now, is because last time I tried it I needed to have automatic updates turned on in window. I don't like having wu turned on, I do manual updates only. So a no go for me. When I was using WD on home PC got WD updates without WU on auto from WD's Help "Check for Updates".
Right now only have WD on office PC which is on 24/7 and WU set to notify only. I have WD Options set to do Daily Scans @ 2:00 AM and to "Check for updated definitions before scanning"; hence its always updated. |
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sjoeii
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join:2007-08-07 | reply to Woody79_00
it si a ok scanner not a good one. Also it is bloathing other security apps
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Mercurybird
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I'll give you my experience with it.
I'm a paid Windows OneCare user. Well I WAS. Windows Defender is included in that package. So my experience with it for over a year is valid for either and both.
I used to wonder why it never popped up and found anything, why it never blocked anything. I run a pretty locked down system with all the usual whistles and bells. I am a poster child for practicing safe hex.
OneCare always maintained a green status of everything good to go. But the strangest thing happened- when I would run an occasional scan with A-Squared OneCare never said a word. One day A-Squared was running and finding the usual cookies and such, and I noticed that every time A-Squared would find something, OneCare would pop up and say it found the same thing about a second later. That went on with everything that A-Squared found.
Now granted that wasn't a lot of things. But it seems that OneCare can't find anything on its own. And I decided that there was enough doubt in that program that I couldn't afford to trust it. So I dumped it. I installed Comodo BoClean in its place, along with Avast.
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HA Nut
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said by MagMan :Here is how you get manual updates for WD without auto updates turned on. » www.microsoft.com/security/portal/On the right side of the page that says latest definition updates. Thanks for the link. Handy! |
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Just Bob
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Spring Hill, FL
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I don't think Joe will mind if I post this here:
From: "Joe Faulhaber[MSFT]"
microsoft.private.security.spyware.general:50227
Hi all,
Heuristic detections are NOT a function of SpyNet membership - these
detections are governed by their own checkbox in Tools->Options only.
Detections by heuristics are displayed as threats, not unknowns. I can see
your point, it gets confusing as to what's going on with the language used,
however.
There is a single interlock between SpyNet membership and functionality -
the notification for software not classified for risks is turned on when you
join Advanced SpyNet, but you can turn this checkbox off and remain in
Advanced SpyNet.
Advanced SpyNet membership is pretty much just like Bill says - there's a
bunch of legal text in there, but some of the highlights of the additional
information sent to SpyNet for Advanced users is data on what IP
addresses/ports a process connects to, which modules an exe loads or which
exes load a DLL, and data on potential rootkits. SpyNet focuses on
exectuable files and applications, not on you or your data.
Hope this helps,
Joe |
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balloonshark
Lets Go Mountaineers
join:2006-08-11
WV
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WD worked fine for me with Avast and I also used it with WinPatrol. Scotty is good at those pesky startup entries. The only other viable alternative for free is Spyware Terminator and I just haven't warmed up to it yet.
With WD, I didn't join the Spynet, (maybe they should change the name Lol) but tweaked the program a little. If you use WD, I would advise using other good and free on-demand scanners regularly. SuperAntiSpyware, A-squared and AVG are all good. Even better, run your browser in Sandboxie and scan only occasionally.
Cheers
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MagMan
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said by no go :
The reason I don't like WD, and am not running it now, is because last time I tried it I needed to have automatic updates turned on in window. I don't like having wu turned on, I do manual updates only. So a no go for me.
Here is how you get manual updates for WD without auto updates turned on.
»www.microsoft.com/security/portal/
On the right side of the page that says latest definition updates.
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no go
@Level3.net | reply to Woody79_00
The reason I don't like WD, and am not running it now, is because last time I tried it I needed to have automatic updates turned on in window. I don't like having wu turned on, I do manual updates only. So a no go for me. |
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