LiquidSean
join:2007-08-05
Purcellville, VA
| EVDO Questions... I'm on satellite internet right now (I HATE IT!!!) and I recently bought a verizon phone with EV-DO Capabilities.... Throughout my house there are some places which get the EV icon to display (No bars though) But I read that Verizon only lets you download 5gB a month, which sucks, so I decided to look into sprint EV-DO. Now I have a couple of Questions
1.) Will an omni-directional antannae improve my 0-bars?
2.) What is the latency of Sprint?
3.) What is the speed?
4.) Since I know I can get Verizon, does that mean I can 100% get sprint?
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LiquidSean
join:2007-08-05
Purcellville, VA | So what is the latency? (How many Ms?) Is it ok for online gaming like Quake, etc....
Is it free to roam on the Verizon network?
Can you roam on Verizon network 24/7? | |
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Fox McCloud
Crazy like a fox.
join:2006-07-23
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| Re: EVDO Questions... said by LiquidSean  :So what is the latency? (How many Ms?) Is it ok for online gaming like Quake, etc.... Is it free to roam on the Verizon network? Can you roam on Verizon network 24/7? I covered this over at EVDOForums (yup, I'm the same Fox McCloud :P)
basically, if you're in a good location, you'll probably have around 100 ms to Google.com....and 140-200ms in a game....it's not the greatest latency, but still, overall, better than dial-up or satellite.
No you can't roam on Verizon's EVDO network; only their 1xRTT network which has a max speed of 144k and latency (to Google) around 300-350 ms (OUCH! Not as bad as satellite, but useless for online gaming).
the only EVDO network you can roam on is Alltel's EVDO network; and most of it is EVDO Revision 0. | |
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| | LiquidSean
join:2007-08-05
Purcellville, VA | Re: EVDO Questions... Oh yeah, you answered me on the other forums, lol
Thanks for all the stuff. So if I'm like four miles away from the orang on the map can I get it? | |
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Fox McCloud
Crazy like a fox.
join:2006-07-23
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| Re: EVDO Questions... said by LiquidSean :Oh yeah, you answered me on the other forums, lol Thanks for all the stuff. So if I'm like four miles away from the orang on the map can I get it? hard to say; I'd just "try and see". | |
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join:2007-08-05
Purcellville, VA | Re: EVDO Questions... Thanks, so where should I get my equipment from? (Sprint?) | |
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Fox McCloud
Crazy like a fox.
join:2006-07-23
·Embarq
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| Re: EVDO Questions... that website is ok, but you never really own the equipment....
if you want to own the equipment though, go to www.sprint.com/sero and user "gary.forsee@sprint.com" as the e-mail address; you can get the S720 (debatably the best EVDO Revision A card currently available...PCMCIA wise) for $100 with a monthly cost of $49.99. | |
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join:2007-08-05
Purcellville, VA | Re: EVDO Questions... Fox McCloud, which people give you the 30-day trial? | |
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Fox McCloud
Crazy like a fox.
join:2006-07-23
1 edit | Re: EVDO Questions... Sprint and Sprint SERO (www.sprint.com/sero) ...those 2 come to mind.
3GStore (whom I personally detest) has a return policy of 14 days. | |
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| LiquidSean
join:2007-08-05
Purcellville, VA | Re: EVDO Questions... Hmmm... Now I'm thinking about ordering service from Millenicom, as it's the same price as SERO, so do they supply you with antennas and amps? | |
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jjgb10
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join:2004-11-24
Kasson, MN
clubs: | They don't sell those accessories direct. A good place to order them is »3gstore.com They sell good Wilson Omnis and other antennas as well as an amplifier. | |
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LiquidSean
join:2007-08-05
Purcellville, VA | So say my reception isn't good enough, or that I get no bars at all, even with the point-to-point antennas, I can return the stuff to 3g store and Millenicom, for full refund and free shipping? | |
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| LiquidSean
join:2007-08-05
Purcellville, VA | Re: EVDO Questions... Cool. Now I just need to know what a good (i.e. cheap) Booster antenna and amp is. (I think I'll buy a Kyocera Router) Also, what's the best USB card from Millenicom? | |
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| | LiquidSean
join:2007-08-05
Purcellville, VA
| Re: EVDO Questions... Is the Novatel Ovation U720 the best EVDO USB card from Millenicom? Or is it the 595 thing?
What Do you recommend as an antenna? I need it to be EXTREMEly good at dissipating noise and improving signal. I think I'm gonna buy it from 3gstore.com. I'm going to buy the amp from 3gstore.com (The only one that they have)
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hitman_001
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join:2006-11-20
Laredo, TX
| Re: EVDO Questions... The 595U is not the preferred modem to use in "fringe" areas. It carries an onboard battery that has to work harder to push out the power to connect and stay connected, especially during high bandwidth usage in less than ideal coverage areas. After a while you'll see your battery begin to deplete and ultimely even die. Then it will be sitting there with a red light on continuously and possibly not putting out as much power as it should be and effecting your connection.
The U720 comes with a Y adaptor that allows you to plug it into 2 powered usb ports and doesnt need a battery. Less stuff to go wrong, does the same job.. = better product.
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rawgerz
In Debt we trust
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join:2004-10-03
Grove City, PA
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| Re: EVDO Questions... Why would a USB modem need a battery anyways? If it's the save power on a laptop I don't see why, these modems transmit less power than a SOHO router, 17dBm max I believe.
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hitman_001
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join:2006-11-20
Laredo, TX
| Re: EVDO Questions... I dont think its necesarilly to save power. I just believe the configuration is different on a PCMCIA card and a USB card. I suppose the PCMCIA card allocates more pins for power giving the card the power it needs. The USB modems all supply a different power route that adds basically an another source of power aside from the single usb port. The U720 provides a Y adaptor that draws power from two powered usb hubs and funnels it into the U720. The 595U on the other hand, tries to be a little more slick in this by implementing an onboard battery that is charged from the usb hub while the connection is disconected/dormant.
Will the U720 work without the Y adaptor in place? YES, but its not able to power up to its full capabilities when connected that way. Just like the 595U will operate with the battery low/discharged, but again not at optimum levels.
The benefit of the U720 over the 595U is that you have no battery to worry about. However you do need a second USB port, which is not allways available. That is where the 595U has its potential, but you also need to consider your coverage on the 595U, battery expenditure is higher the weaker your signal is, and you can ultimately drain your battery with heavy use. You need to weigh the pro's and cons when deciding on a USB modem to determine whats best for you and your situation.
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join:2002-11-05
Neptune, NJ
| Re: EVDO Questions... Great answer, just what I've been looking for. I've been trying to decide on Sprint or Verizon, and whether to go with usb or express card. I'd like usb but have read about all the problems with the 595u. I want to be able to move the card to different computers, desktop and laptop, and will be traveling, so I'm bound to be in fringe areas at times. I'll have to look closer at the u720, and I'm leaning toward Sprint.
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join:2003-02-06
Jonesville, MI
| Ok, here's the real deal with the Y-connector. A single USB port is supposed to have a max of 500mA. The Novatel U720 averages around 400mA while in use. However, the max is 700mA. To get that extra 200mA, it needs to be connected to a USB port that doesn't share its power with the one already plugged in. Some computers will have a "hub" and 2-4 ports may share the same 500mA. If you really want to be sure it's receiving all the power it can, buy a USB hub with its own power supply.
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join:2003-02-06
Jonesville, MI
| Re: EVDO Questions... Just a note... it looks like the 595U is capable of using the most power. I'd guess the more power it uses, the stronger it broadcasts, but I'm not any radio expert.
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rawgerz
In Debt we trust
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join:2004-10-03
Grove City, PA
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| Re: EVDO Questions... Last I checked, I think all the devices transmit the same power, about 17dBm I believe. If there's anything I've learned from evdo cards it's that the transmit power should not be a priority, just distance from tower and the geography of the area. Even with an amplifier, (maybe 500mw?) it's no substitute for distance off the ground.
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join:2003-02-06
Jonesville, MI
| Re: EVDO Questions... My PX500 transmits at a normal output of 7-10dBm according to the manual, with a max of 24dBm. The U720 is also 7-10dBm normal with a max of only 23dBm. It seems the U720 puts out a slightly nicer signal, though. The AC595 seems to lack reasonable documentation...
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