tommy13v
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join:2002-02-15
Glenville NY | reply to javaMan
Re: HELP! My son is a little hacker!!
reset the bios is quite easy though. He's probably using NT Password Reset utility that is available on CD or Floppy. Heck I can even remove the administrator password on an AD domain. |
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sansri88
Go digtal you analog laggards
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join:2005-12-17
New York, NY
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Bah. Don't worry about it. I'm his age, and I'm the one that has to lock my parents out of the computer so they don't do anything stupid.
He probably won't do anything, just figuring out how to do this. |
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javaMan
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San Luis Obispo, CA
2 edits | reply to tommy13v
said by tommy13v  :reset the bios is quite easy though. . . True enough. But if the boy is going to go so far as to start tearing the computer apart to gain access, the father has bigger problems. The only other alternatives are to physically secure the machine or resort to whole drive encryption. Hopefully, neither will be necessary.
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javaMan
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San Luis Obispo, CA
1 edit | reply to sansri88
said by sansri88 :Bah. Don't worry about it. I'm his age, and I'm the one that has to lock my parents out of the computer so they don't do anything stupid. He probably won't do anything, just figuring out how to do this. You're missing the point as I'm sure you would at your age. The bigger issue is whether the boy will respect the limits his father has put on him and clearly that is not the case. I'm sure your parents expect you to abide by the rules they place on you whatever they may be.
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FiL
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Silver Spring, MD | reply to Anon
don't you mean downgrade to no GUI? lol. go home. |
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Blackbird
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Fort Wayne, IN
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said by j0hny :Well my 16 yr. old has found out how to bypass XP's password protection, so he can access my computer whenever he wants to. My question is, does anyone know of a program that replaces the Windows login? Assuming your words were accurate ("my computer") and assuming you've expressly told him to obey your computer access rules, you have a son who is consciously refusing to respect other people's property. The result, in any setting other than your home, would be termed "vandalism" or "illegal entry" - and he would be in serious legal trouble. You must deal firmly with the ethics situation first, since the type of lock or security you might apply is ultimately immaterial if your son continues choosing to use his cleverness to violate basic life rules and invade others' property. You may elect to let him slide on such things, but a future employer or society in general is likely to take a much tougher and negative view of such behavior.
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FiL
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Me thinky's its wrong to give parenting advice over the internet. Your words don't matter in that "realm". To each his own, just give the guy a hand in figuring out how to stop the intrusion. Isn't that all he asked for? lol. you guys and your "advice". LOL. its like watching Doctor Phil on this board... |
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BarneyBadAss
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Go here »www.microsoft.com/technet/sysint···een.mspx
and install this as 1 a screen saver and 2 a splash screen
It's sure to get his attention.
2). make it so that the system will only boot from primary HDD only and bypass any attempt at booting from anything else.
3). put in a HW power on password in the bios.
4). put in a chunk of code that after the system comes up prompts you for a second password.
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javaMan
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2 edits | reply to FiL
said by FiL :Me thinky's its wrong to give parenting advice over the internet. Your words don't matter in that "realm". To each his own, just give the guy a hand in figuring out how to stop the intrusion. Isn't that all he asked for? lol. you guys and your "advice". LOL. its like watching Doctor Phil on this board... Perhaps you replied to me in error but if you'll reread my posts I never offered any parental advice and I did offer a solution to the OP's problem. My comment was in reply to a young man who advised that it was no big deal and to point out that the issue was more about defying his parent's wishes.
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Blackbird
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said by FiL :...just give the guy a hand in figuring out how to stop the intrusion. Isn't that all he asked for? lol. you guys and your "advice". LOL. its like watching Doctor Phil on this board... He can stop the son's intrusions by impressing upon his son (in whatever manner works for the both of them) that such things are simply wrong, particularly when they involve breaking clearly stated rules. Trust. What better security will he find than that? Technologically securing a computer against physical intrusion will be costly, only partially effective against a creative intruder, or cumbersome (in terms of impact on ordinary legitimate use)... it can be done, but the results aren't pretty.
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GadgetsRme
R.I.P. dadkins
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Canon City, CO
1 edit | reply to j0hny
Get a drive drawer, mount your hard drive in it, and take it out and secure it in a lockable file cabinet or take it with you. If the hard drive isn't there he's not going to be able to do anything.
edit: My drive drawer only cost $40.00 + tax.
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PCJunkies
join:2007-07-23
Kannapolis, NC
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Don't work about setting passwords in Windows or buying any equipment.
All he is doing is (like others have said) booting with either a floppy or cd that has an "offline" administrator password changer.
These are all over the net, I use them all the time because I always forget my long ass passwords.
Just go into the bios and see what security settings are in there that can be set. Change the boot order to hard drive first and nothing after that, then password protect the bios itself.
Now, he may be smart enough to open up the case and take the bios battery out to reset the bios settings back to default. If so, then you can either use start removing cables when you leave or just beat his ass. 
Clay |
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La Luna
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said by FiL :Me thinky's its wrong to give parenting advice over the internet. Your words don't matter in that "realm". To each his own, just give the guy a hand in figuring out how to stop the intrusion. Isn't that all he asked for? lol. you guys and your "advice". LOL. its like watching Doctor Phil on this board... Hmmm, interesting that you wouldn't consider the kid disobeying the rules THE real problem. I believe people DID give advice on "how to stop the intrusion" on the PC itself, but that's really not the main issue now, is it?
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Anav
Sarcastic Llama? Naw, Just Acerbic
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Dartmouth, NS | He is at the age where he can be booted (non computer term) out of the house! |
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Siryak
join:2005-11-26 | Just curious, but why do you want to keep him off the computer anyway? I mean it's not like he's 5 or something! |
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Armaina
Not every saint is a fool
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join:2002-11-06
Tempe, AZ
| said by Siryak :Just curious, but why do you want to keep him off the computer anyway? I mean it's not like he's 5 or something! Most likely because he doesn't want his son getting on the computer just any time he feels like it, (which, that is what the user has stated) just like regulating TV time or video game time.
Makes sense to me |
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elios
join:2005-11-15
Springfield, MO
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1 edit | reply to j0hny
Re: HELP! My son is a little hacker!!
and yea bios pass is useless if he dont care to cover his tracks
when i did that crap i used to make back door for my self
that way it would look like nothing changed
a BIOS pass is a pain becouse i can re-set it but i cant put it back as it was
imo do what my parents did take the keyboard and mouse and or monitor cable |
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youveshutmedown
@sbcglobal.net
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»www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/security/5a05/
Stick one of these on your machine. It won't stop him, but boy will he be surprised when you go in and change/reset the passwords on his MySpace accounts, email, etc. |
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Stumbles
join:2002-12-17
Port Saint Lucie, FL
| reply to javaMan
That might slow him down but so long as a user has physical access to a machine, well all bets are off. Especially if he finds sites like this; »www.uktsupport.co.uk/reference/biosp.htm |
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