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j0hny
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join:2002-10-12
Cotati, CA

reply to EUS

Re: HELP! My son is a little hacker!!

I've tried this, he found out how to get in by deleting the password in dos. It's easy to find out when he's done this because I have no password when I log in. Yes I do ground him when this happens, but I also can't help in feeling a sense of pride in his ingenuity . This is why I was wondering if the was something else I could use, or replace the Windows login with.


javaMan
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join:2002-07-15
San Luis Obispo, CA

said by j0hny:

I've tried this, he found out how to get in by deleting the password in dos. It's easy to find out when he's done this because I have no password when I log in. Yes I do ground him when this happens, but I also can't help in feeling a sense of pride in his ingenuity . This is why I was wondering if the was something else I could use, or replace the Windows login with.
He's probably using something like this. In that case you should go into the BIOS and not allow booting from the CD drive first. Then set the BIOS password with a strong password. That should do it I would think.
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Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness. . . Isa. 5:20


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said by javaMan:

said by j0hny:

I've tried this, he found out how to get in by deleting the password in dos. It's easy to find out when he's done this because I have no password when I log in. Yes I do ground him when this happens, but I also can't help in feeling a sense of pride in his ingenuity . This is why I was wondering if the was something else I could use, or replace the Windows login with.
He's probably using something like this. In that case you should go into the BIOS and not allow booting from the CD drive first. Then set the BIOS password with a strong password. That should do it I would think.
I'd second that. Also, if he is subverting your security, and "playing" around at being a little hacker, I'd be really cautious about what you do on that machine. If he is visiting seedy sites on the net, you may have worse hacker problems than your son resetting your password.


tommy13v
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join:2002-02-15
Niskayuna NY

reply to javaMan
reset the bios is quite easy though. He's probably using NT Password Reset utility that is available on CD or Floppy. Heck I can even remove the administrator password on an AD domain.



javaMan
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join:2002-07-15
San Luis Obispo, CA

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said by tommy13v:

reset the bios is quite easy though. . .
True enough. But if the boy is going to go so far as to start tearing the computer apart to gain access, the father has bigger problems. The only other alternatives are to physically secure the machine or resort to whole drive encryption. Hopefully, neither will be necessary.
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Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness. . . Isa. 5:20

Stumbles

join:2002-12-17
Port Saint Lucie, FL

reply to javaMan
That might slow him down but so long as a user has physical access to a machine, well all bets are off. Especially if he finds sites like this; »www.uktsupport.co.uk/reference/biosp.htm



javaMan
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San Luis Obispo, CA

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said by Stumbles:

That might slow him down but so long as a user has physical access to a machine, well all bets are off. Especially if he finds sites like this; »www.uktsupport.co.uk/reference/biosp.htm
Whether you are right will depend on two things: the boy's level of sophistication and his willingness to continue to defy his parents. The solution to this problem, in my mind, should start with the least level required and escalate as needed.
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Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness. . . Isa. 5:20

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