MrMoody
But the Grinch ... did Not.
join:2002-09-03
Smithfield, NC | reply to orph4824
Re: more 10 Meg rumors
No, this was different, the modem would drop out & reset repeatedly. |
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jsmith88
@embarqhsd.net | My MEDR was 6188, I didn't ask about distance though. I live pretty far, about 15 miles from the CO and really close to the RT. |
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Fox McCloud
Crazy like a fox.
join:2006-07-23
 ·Embarq
 ·Sprint Mobile Broa..
| reply to orph4824
so, I take it that, overall, having the phone-lines buried underground in my area is to my advantage?
Also, what's the best way to ensure that you have the shortest run of copper form the RT to your home? Would canceling service and resigning up do the trick? (After all, I've heard of people living relatively close to a RT/CO, but because of the copper length, they could only get 1.5 meg...or they had two phone lines and one could get it...and the other couldn't).
I know this is a bit early to be asking these questions, as DSL isn't even available, but I like to collect information long before the actual ordering process takes place. |
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orph4824
I Ate What??
join:2001-04-26
Greeneville, TN
| reply to Dezbend
You can have them "groom" the line essentially they try to make a shorter run for you eliminateing extranous loops and taps even moving you to a diffrent copper pair (not replaceing your pole drop). However if your less than 5000 ft from your CO/RT you won't see very much improvement. Back when Sprint came out with 3mb I upgraded and at the time i was around 17500 ft from the CO they groomed the line and just in my apartment complex eliminated a 500 ft loop/tap then they went thru the availble pairs and found the pair with the lowest noise factor and on top of that put in an external splitter. All that took them around 4 hours and resolved my looseing sync, keep in mind this was back in 1998. And when I moved even though I'm less than 10,000 ft I insisted on the external splitter. From my experience the external spliter does alot better than using those inline filters on every non dsl device. Most of what I share is from my own experiece and keeping records over the past 10 years of what works and what doesn't.
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Time Keeper
Premium,VIP,MVM
join:2004-01-07
Crockett, TX
·Windstream
·CenturyLink
| said by orph4824  :And when I moved even though I'm less than 10,000 ft I insisted on the external splitter. From my experience the external spliter does alot better than using those inline filters on every non dsl device. Most of what I share is from my own experiece and keeping records over the past 10 years of what works and what doesn't. That's usually the best way to gain and keep a solid connection. Also, those inline micro filters that come in the install kits can add as much as 400 ft per filter. So if you're on a longer loop and at the limits of DSL, the inline filters can actually hurt you more than help you. The whole house splitter just makes sense. |
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Fox McCloud
Crazy like a fox.
join:2006-07-23
·Embarq
·Sprint Mobile Broa..
| reply to orph4824
said by orph4824 :You can have them "groom" the line essentially they try to make a shorter run for you eliminateing extranous loops and taps even moving you to a diffrent copper pair (not replaceing your pole drop). That's essentially what I meant (different copper pair). If I cancel service (I have) and resign up, will I get the same copper pair as I did when I initially had service, or will I likely be put on a new copper pair?
I know it probably wouldn't make much of a difference, but could I still have them "groom" my line when they come to do the install? Yeah, I know it might not make a huge difference, but if it means increasing my chances of getting a faster package (if/when it's deployed) or making my current package more stable, I'd be all for it.
Also, did they charge extra to "groom" your line, or was it incorporated into your installation?
One last thing; would it be possible to get them to replace the telephone wire (hanging on a pole) from the front of my property to the back of my home?
Lastly, when the copper wire comes from the telephone box, it connects to a small, covered unit; the metal inside here is badly corroded; could this make a difference? (I'm not worried about the unit where the phone-line enters my house...as that's an old style unit that I plan on having them upgrade to the CID when DSL is installed). |
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orph4824
I Ate What??
join:2001-04-26
Greeneville, TN
| said by Fox McCloud :If I cancel service (I have) and resign up, will I get the same copper pair as I did when I initially had service, or will I likely be put on a new copper pair? Most likely you'd wind up on the same pair depending on how long a time frame you don't have service.
said by Fox McCloud :Also, did they charge extra to "groom" your line, or was it incorporated into your installation? At the time I was having loss of sync issues so thier wasn't any charges. at first I got the 1.5mb and used inline filters, worked fine. A month later I upgraded, I did it this was to absorb the inital installation charges. Also my line was fairly clean since I had ISDN previously.
said by Fox McCloud :One last thing; would it be possible to get them to replace the telephone wire (hanging on a pole) from the front of my property to the back of my home? Yes, however a service charge would most likely apply, the only cavent to that is if the NID on the front is the old style and they "upgrade" it you could opt to have it placed elsewhere, just have to ask the installer during his visit.
said by Fox McCloud :Lastly, when the copper wire comes from the telephone box, it connects to a small, covered unit; the metal inside here is badly corroded; could this make a difference? (I'm not worried about the unit where the phone-line enters my house...as that's an old style unit that I plan on having them upgrade to the CID when DSL is installed). I know of the box your speaking about, its a distrubtion block about the size of a pack of cards, in my parents house all the phones were connected to this box then one lead went outside to the NID. Nowdays its common for the individual runs to go straight to the NID haven't seen a distrubtion box in some time.
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Fox McCloud
Crazy like a fox.
join:2006-07-23
·Embarq
·Sprint Mobile Broa..
1 edit | thanks; I'll keep all of this information in mind.
I also personally know an Embarq tech who might be able to work out a few things, too, so *shrug*.
either way, I'll just have to weigh a few things when a DSLAM is actually deployed here.
the question is, what would you suspect my maximum speeds would be (at 4,500 feet) with uncapped ADSL2+ or with future-deployed VDSL? |
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orph4824
I Ate What??
join:2001-04-26
Greeneville, TN
| reply to Dezbend
No experience with VDSL so no clue... Best guess without reguard to standard tiers on ADSL2+ would be 8500-9000 downstream and your upstream could easily do 1000. I believe these numbers would be the most stable at that distance, you may very well get 10m down but I'm playing it safe. 
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Fox McCloud
Crazy like a fox.
join:2006-07-23
·Embarq
·Sprint Mobile Broa..
| said by orph4824 :No experience with VDSL so no clue... Best guess without reguard to standard tiers on ADSL2+ would be 8500-9000 downstream and your upstream could easily do 1000. I believe these numbers would be the most stable at that distance, you may very well get 10m down but I'm playing it safe. Ok, thanks; I guess I'll just have to "wait it out" and see what happens if/when a DSLAM is deployed at my fiber-fed RT. |
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fivepairpath
join:2007-09-09
| reply to random_guy
said by random_guy :It's been confirmed. Internal email says it'll be available in Vegas only effective 9/17/07. 10.0/896k. I don't have pricing info, though. Also, you have to have a qualifying MEDR of 8410. hah in some cases.. the worst part about that.. if your fttc and only on a fidl a. your only gonna get 1.5 at the highest. thanks to the lovely engineers. |
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emig5m
join:2004-02-16
Columbia, NJ
| Lemme see if I'm understanding this correctly, people whose dsl is coming from a remote and not directly from the CO won't be able to get the 10mb upgrade unless their remote is fiber fed then theirs a chance (but at this time not 100% certain) they might be able to get 10mb if their line distance is short and noise levels are low?
Someone correct me if I'm wrong because I'm highly interested in the 10mb upgrades (depending on the cost of it). My dsl comes out of a remote that IS fiber fed - do I have a chance of 10mb in the near future? |
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Gandalf4503
join:2002-06-27
Las Vegas, NV | reply to Dezbend
So, it's 9/17. Anyone been able to order it? It says I have the fastest speed available on the embarq website still, so I guess I really can't get it > |
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DarnellP
join:2004-10-12
Las Vegas, NV | As far as I know you can't order via the website, Gandalf. You've gotta call in. |
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Karl Bode
News Guy
join:2000-03-02 | So can anyone confirm the 10Mbps launched in Vegas today? |
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Gandalf4503
join:2002-06-27
Las Vegas, NV
| I don't have an MEDR of 8410, so I think it would be a waste of time for me to even call. From what I've seen, nobody here has one. It seems like they'll be trialing it in a very small region and the rest of us probably won't be able to get it for a long time. |
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dave3720
join:2000-06-16
Las Vegas, NV | I called they said I couldn't get it. |
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sashwa
Pixie Cat Crunchin' n Foldin'
Premium,Mod
join:2001-01-29
Alcatraz
clubs:  | Did they tell you why not? |
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dave3720
join:2000-06-16
Las Vegas, NV | They didn't know why, so I asked for an escalation, but that will take a couple of days.  |
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Dezbend
Premium,MVM
join:2001-04-20
| reply to Karl Bode
said by Karl Bode :So can anyone confirm the 10Mbps launched in Vegas today? yes, I don't know how many customers can get it, but the product did launch today (well yesterday sept 17th)
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