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Re: Moves like this are a sign of capitalism-

You cannot work legally anywhere except in the US and US protected territories, unless you obtain work authorization. The idea of "working legally" is without formalities.

There are many countries that will NOT issue work authorization to foreigners. Most countries will make you jump through hoops to get a work visa. One of the more difficult countries to get a work visa in for foreigners is the USA ... the limitations generally mean that unless you are absolutely gifted with PhDs up to your armpits, or you're a gifted sportsman, or an internationally recognized entertainer, your chance of working in the US in a timely manner for a prospective employer drop dramatically.

It's easier for a company to contract with an offshore support company than it is to bring those same workers to the USA.


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said by sbrook See Profile :

You cannot work legally anywhere except in the US and US protected territories, unless you obtain work authorization. The idea of "working legally" is without formalities.

There are many countries that will NOT issue work authorization to foreigners. Most countries will make you jump through hoops to get a work visa. One of the more difficult countries to get a work visa in for foreigners is the USA ... the limitations generally mean that unless you are absolutely gifted with PhDs up to your armpits, or you're a gifted sportsman, or an internationally recognized entertainer, your chance of working in the US in a timely manner for a prospective employer drop dramatically.

It's easier for a company to contract with an offshore support company than it is to bring those same workers to the USA.
I am not sure if you are agreeing with me or not. A US citizen is legally allowed to work in any country in the world as long as there is not a specific law/regulation/etc prohibiting it (Cuba is one such example), assuming that the host country has issued a work visa. Once a US citizen has received a work visa from the host country, he/she must then file the appropriate paperwork with the IRS because income worldwide is taxable for US citizens. Are we both saying the same thing?
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Not quite, no. Whilst the US places no restrictions on Americans working in most places of the world, other countries may place restrictions on who may work in their country, and it is by no means a formality to get permission to work. For example, even though Canada is the US closest neighbour and trading partner, there are only a small fraction of Canadians to whom the US would grant a work visa.

It would be very presumptuous to assume that an American could work in any country because it's not up to the individual or to the USA.


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said by sbrook See Profile :

Not quite, no. Whilst the US places no restrictions on Americans working in most places of the world, other countries may place restrictions on who may work in their country, and it is by no means a formality to get permission to work. For example, even though Canada is the US closest neighbour and trading partner, there are only a small fraction of Canadians to whom the US would grant a work visa.

It would be very presumptuous to assume that an American could work in any country because it's not up to the individual or to the USA.
I disagree, and suggest that we are indeed saying the same thing. My original point was the the US itself places no restrictions (other than those mentioned) on its citizens from working abroad. Again as I mentioned, the citizen does need to get a work visa from the country in question. Whether that country grants it or not has nothing to do with the US policy of allowing its citizens to work abroad.
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You said that as an American you can work legally in any country in the world (except Cuba). Not true. If you'd said that the US gov't imposes few restrictions on you working abroad, then I'd agree, but you chose to virtually ignore your potential host country's role in the matter.

You also make it sound like a simple process to get a work visa. Again, in most countries, far from true. Try it some time and see all the red tape.
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