Re: 2 HD streams in AT&T U-verse http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r18942148 en Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:05:21 EDT Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:05:21 EDT Re: 2 HD streams http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18965091 Enlightener : Good example. Back in 1996 I had one of the first cable modems ( BayNetworks ) by Jones Internet Channel. While the internet gateway sucked ( 4 T1's for 1500 customers ) the LAN was awesome. I was using WINNT 4.0 back then and you could just browse the cloud. All kinds of `neighbors` had `public` shares and you could easily get 10MB across the cloud.

These days the download to the internet has greatly improved, but the upload and the near host speed has drastically decreased.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18965091 Tue, 28 Aug 2007 09:59:37 EDT Re: 2 HD streams http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18964184 cableguy619 : lol markyD]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18964184 Tue, 28 Aug 2007 04:27:23 EDT Re: 2 HD streams http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18963439 MarkyD :
said by Enlightener See Profile :

I suppose we should be grateful that it doesn't suck as much as it used to. I rememeber in years past fiber served customers were either stuck with 1.5MB service or no service at all since no copper meant no DSL.

I guess it's an extra hard pill for me to swallow because the house I used to own in Virginia got FiOS about 1 month after I moved to Texas...
I'm not grateful for crap. it just defies all logic that AT&T would push such pathetic service over FIBER!!! Why go to the expense...nevermind. You know what I'm going to say, and so does everyone else here. ;)

All I know is this. Linking my in-home lab and my friend's lab via EoIP, even though we both have FTTP via AT&T, is going to just be too slow to be useful. So, I'm bypassing AT&T completely and setting up a wireless link between our houses =)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18963439 Mon, 27 Aug 2007 23:50:52 EDT Re: 2 HD streams http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18962996 Enlightener : I suppose we should be grateful that it doesn't suck as much as it used to. I rememeber in years past fiber served customers were either stuck with 1.5MB service or no service at all since no copper meant no DSL.

I guess it's an extra hard pill for me to swallow because the house I used to own in Virginia got FiOS about 1 month after I moved to Texas...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18962996 Mon, 27 Aug 2007 22:30:02 EDT Re: 2 HD streams http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18960729 MarkyD :
said by cableguy619 See Profile :

att actuallt does fiber to the home ...but it sucks
there, fixed it for you ;)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18960729 Mon, 27 Aug 2007 16:34:18 EDT Re: 2 HD streams http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18958188 Enlightener :
said by cableguy619 See Profile :

att actuallt does fiber to the home as well in selcect area that are all prewired.. so new build :)
I'm pretty sure MarkyD is aware of that considering that he is has posted numerous times that he ( and I ) are served by FTTP.

I also am pretty sure that he would disagree with your smiley face emoticon since the FTTP service frankly sucks.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18958188 Mon, 27 Aug 2007 10:19:53 EDT Re: 2 HD streams http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18956902 cableguy619 : att actuallt does fiber to the home as well in selcect area that are all prewired.. so new build :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18956902 Mon, 27 Aug 2007 01:00:25 EDT Re: 2 HD streams http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18956897 cableguy619 : they have alreay reported 4qtr 2008 it was supposed be the 4th this yr..they are slacking]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18956897 Mon, 27 Aug 2007 00:59:36 EDT Re: 2 HD streams http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18953922 MarkyD : I assume the reason why FTTP locations are limited to 1 HD stream is that AT&T wants to make uverse offerings universal no matter what platform it's being provided over, to avoid confusion. I think it's silly and short sighted. What's the point of rolling out FTTP if you're going to push DSL quality service through it?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18953922 Sun, 26 Aug 2007 15:57:57 EDT Re: 2 HD streams http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18945815 cwh : So who else has deloyed iptv over vdsl and is supplying more than 1 HDTV stream with ms software?

Why is ATT FTTP locations still limited to 1 HD stream?

IT is possible that this is a MS problem, but i doubt we will ever actually know.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18945815 Sat, 25 Aug 2007 00:12:30 EDT Re: 2 HD streams http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18945657 anon :
said by MarkyD See Profile :

said by d_l See Profile :

Virtually everyone with U-Verse now has the bandwidth at 27 mbps to support two HD streams if you believe the various slides that AT&T has posted at investor presentations. This suggests that the absence of the second HD stream is a Microsoft IPTV programming problem and not a lack of bandwidth.
doesn't Verizon FiOS use MS IPTV software too? How could this be a software limitation? 27mbps is barely enough to deliver 2 HD streams, 2 SD streams and 6/1 internet...
Verizon got tired of waiting for microsoft and developed a modified version of microsoft IPTV software.

I seriously doubt that microsoft is responsible for uverse problems. Many other carriers like British, Deutshe and Slovak telecom, Singtel, Swisscom and many other use the same technology including AT&T.

»www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gwvb7v_yckg


The only problems I've seen with microsoft software is with AT&T. Hmmm I wonder why?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18945657 Fri, 24 Aug 2007 23:43:38 EDT Re: 2 HD streams http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18942232 d_l : I don't think Verizon uses MS software. If you believe their slides: »Re: How much bandwidth is available to a VRAD?, then the implication is that AT&T is covering for a MS dual-HD stream software limitation right now. Admittedly this is reading between the lines, but often problems are presented this way -- very subtly.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18942232 Fri, 24 Aug 2007 15:15:26 EDT Re: 2 HD streams http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18942148 MarkyD :
said by d_l See Profile :

Virtually everyone with U-Verse now has the bandwidth at 27 mbps to support two HD streams if you believe the various slides that AT&T has posted at investor presentations. This suggests that the absence of the second HD stream is a Microsoft IPTV programming problem and not a lack of bandwidth.
doesn't Verizon FiOS use MS IPTV software too? How could this be a software limitation? 27mbps is barely enough to deliver 2 HD streams, 2 SD streams and 6/1 internet...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18942148 Fri, 24 Aug 2007 14:59:52 EDT Re: 2 HD streams http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18942059 d_l : Virtually everyone with U-Verse now has the bandwidth at 27 mbps to support two HD streams if you believe the various slides that AT&T has posted at investor presentations. This suggests that the absence of the second HD stream is a Microsoft IPTV programming problem and not a lack of bandwidth.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18942059 Fri, 24 Aug 2007 14:47:36 EDT Re: 2 HD streams http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18941642 MarkyD : I'd be VERY surprised if it happened by the end of the year]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18941642 Fri, 24 Aug 2007 13:39:17 EDT Re: 2 HD streams http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18941088 Flippant : I sure hope it does not stop at 2. While it would make HD more functional it still would not really cover the needs of my current house (3 HD TVs and wildly different viewing habits). Oh well it will eventually improve to where I could use it it I do not find a better alternative in the meantime. Still looking for something better than Comcast and dish though. It is difficult to get very excited about 2 HD streams.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18941088 Fri, 24 Aug 2007 12:19:06 EDT Re: 2 HD streams http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18941077 ninjatutle : Not this again. This comes up about 2x a month :D]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18941077 Fri, 24 Aug 2007 12:17:01 EDT 2 HD streams http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18941056 aztec : Just had a U-verse tech support guy tell me that they're working on bandwidth upgrades, and intend to support 2 HD streams by the end of this year. Interesting, if true.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18941056 Fri, 24 Aug 2007 12:12:45 EDT