 DKSDamn Kidney StonesPremium,ExMod 2002
join:2001-03-22
Owen Sound, ON
kudos:2
 ·Bell Sympatico
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Re: Thomson SpeedTouch 5x6v6 FirmWare v6.2.H (v6.2.17.5) said by Bicephale:My goodness, it's been a busy month for Thomson!... It's now time to edit 'DMT v7.344.ini' and then to try the "allowUntestedFWversion" parameter!!!  Done...
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DKSDamn Kidney StonesPremium,ExMod 2002
join:2001-03-22
Owen Sound, ON
kudos:2 Reviews:
·Bell Sympatico
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Zero errored seconds, for one thing. |
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| Hi DKS,
My fingers are crossed! I Rebooted/Resynchronized the
unit to clear all of my counters: i've got quiet periods
but i also have burst which cancel such good statistics
so it usually takes a few days before my opinion is set.
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 Quake110Premium
join:2003-12-20
Ottawa, ON | reply to Bicephale
I have to say that this firmware is much better. The SNR is higher: it's around 11, while with the previous, it was at 8 SNR. |
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DKSDamn Kidney StonesPremium,ExMod 2002
join:2001-03-22
Owen Sound, ON
kudos:2 Reviews:
·Bell Sympatico
| reply to Bicephale
Release Notes for 7.4.1.7 (Adobe PDF format)
»ugolini.com.au/speedtouch/austra···blic.pdf
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Hey, those FirmWare updates got to be useful somewhere along the line!
I'm glad for you, i wish i could be as enthusiastic... |
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| reply to DKS
Well done!
Now we need the v7 CLI bible...
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said by Bicephale:Hey, those FirmWare updates got to be useful somewhere along the line! I'm glad for you, i wish i could be as enthusiastic... I also noticed a better Downstream with this firmWare. SNR does not change as DSLAM are configured to give you 6db down and 7 db for upload. Gain is around 300 Kbps at peak hours.  |
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ZZQ0AA5326 | 
ZZQ0AA62F5 | 
ZZQ0AA7208 | 
ZZQ0AA7417 |
Those are extreme snapshots and i was becoming confused...
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| Here is a screen shot after 11 hours without any reset or re-syncro. Latest DMT does not provide all informations but you can see the modem is still at 6db and 7 db at peak hours (now 12h33 Pm in Paris.
This firmWare seems much stable than the UK I was using previously.
With my line and attenuation I can't reach (I am far) the 8192 -1024 from my ISP. |
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| Hummm...
Oh, i see! I could be mistaking but you appear to
mean that the SNR Margins are steady targets while
rates vary depending on your signal's environment!
Allow me one remark about 'DMT' failing to support
the late Thomson FirmWare: we should look at this
situation the other way around since Thomson keeps
forcing the author to adjust his 'DMT' upgrades...
I didn't care to validate my theory but maybe some
features have been disabled by the author since he
may have found this fix preferable to rebooting...
In any case, it's a pleasure to get an opportunity
to compare our SnapShots with those of a European!
I wish to thank you warmly for the relevant input. |
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| said by Bicephale:Hummm... Oh, i see! I could be mistaking but you appear to mean that the SNR Margins are steady targets while rates vary depending on your signal's environment! Yes, and this is my choice. With 53 db attenuation I could have very stable 2048 / 256 Kbp/s with much higher margin. But I need good Upload speed. 3 years ago I change for 8192/1024 - There are no other options - and yes, time to time I loose sync when lines are too busy.. Intermodulation  This happened much more with an older ST-510.
said by Bicephale:In any case, it's a pleasure to get an opportunity to compare our SnapShots with those of a European! I wish to thank you warmly for the relevant input. Thanks you.. My English is poor by I never found any better place (forums) than BBR with a lot of friendly pepole when speaking about security, software and now aDSL hardware.
I like to share experiments... Even making mistakes!
Hey ! I am an old timer starting to play computers in 1978 on a Tandy TRS-80 in machine code for the Z80.. |
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DKSDamn Kidney StonesPremium,ExMod 2002
join:2001-03-22
Owen Sound, ON
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·Bell Sympatico
| said by Old Computer: 3 years ago I change for 8192/1024 - There are no other options - and yes, time to time I loose sync when lines are too busy.. Intermodulation This happened much more with an older ST-510. Interesting. I can't say that I have heard (literally) intermodulation or crosstalk on Canadian phone lines in a long time. It used to be common in the days of long distance microwave relays on broadband, but with fibre now carrying long distance, it has all but disappeared. And I can't say I have ever heard it on local lines, even in rural areas. Mind you, in this area Bell Canada has put a lot of local wire underground.
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Hi Old Computer,
Anything which may be related to BandWidth Shaping
captures my attention once i've been made aware of
it. When you specify "by choice", must i conclude
that you reduce the rate locally while it actually
is a 8192/256 Kbps profile? No doubt if you coded
using Zilog assembly language you would be able to
toy with BandWidth Shaping should there be a need!
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Hi DKS,
But which "Cross-Talk" does he have in mind exactly?
Cross-Talk @ 3 KHz, 30 KHz, 300 KHz or beyond!...
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1 edit | said by Bicephale:Hi DKS, But which "Cross-Talk" does he have in mind exactly? Cross-Talk @ 3 KHz, 30 KHz, 300 KHz or beyond!... Yes that one between multiple ADSL lines into the same cable.
My DSLAM has 40.000 customers using ADSL between 512/128 to 24000/2048 onto analogues lines for 3 cities carrying Datas, Voip and TV. I can't receive TV. .
There is also some noise caused by ISDN lines, but I don't think I am infected lol.
The same cable is used to serve 7500 subscribers in my city.. I can let you imagine the noise over 300 Khz.!! The maximum sync I ever reach is 4400/992 Kbps during summer holidays.
Here is my line: Given by my NRA. Sorry it's in French but I am sure you have no problem with...
Longueur ligne : 4187 m
Diamètre câble :
calibre 4/10 sur 1332 m
calibre 6/10 sur 2265 m
calibre 5/10 sur 590 m
Affaiblissement ligne : 51.8952 dB
Edit** I have 590 meters into aerial line with a lot of junctions boxes (one for 2 houses). |
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said by Bicephale:Hi Old Computer, Anything which may be related to BandWidth Shaping captures my attention once i've been made aware of it. When you specify "by choice", must i conclude that you reduce the rate locally while it actually is a 8192/256 Kbps profile? No doubt if you coded using Zilog assembly language you would be able to toy with BandWidth Shaping should there be a need! No, I did not change anything into my profile because as I told you the DSLAM is "auto-adaptative" and when you re-sync the modem always give you 6/7 decibels with maximum possible downstream.
Ouch!! Zilog ok, but have no idea about the processor used by Thomson.. Maybe have to find (?) some more information about it. I am no very familiar with BandWidth Shaping... |
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| Hi again,
Mon Dieu! Vous avez vos entrées à la compagnie du
téléphone, on dirait bien! I sure can't tell what
my wire gauge details are, i wonder if even Bell's
staff would know... Anyway, 300 KHz is archaïc if
one considers the ridiculously low rate which this
limit once allowed (512 Kbps, perhaps). I'm still
very curious about BandWidth Shaping vs SpeedTouch
FirmWare versions but i can imagine that your ISPs
are strongly opposed to it since the initial setup
will target fixed SNR Margins instead of speeds!!!
The ST5x6v6 is built around a BroadCom BCM6338 but
it's Thomson's FirmWare which stands in the way...
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1 edit | Hi,
C'est exactement cela ...
Avoir des entrées ne permets pas d'avoir un meilleur service..lol
Il me faudrait une ligne blindée personelle.
Screenshot from a warm and sunny Sunday afternoon...
I started ADSL in 2000 with a small USB modem and 512/128 Kbps... Before I was using RTC modem Motorola 3265 xFast, Zyxel 1696.. Then V92 for some time. It was easy to play with low pass filters in order to improve stability on the lines. Not so easy with ADSL... And nothing to do with Crosstalk.
Yes, When I opened my 546 i saw the BroadCom chip. And I have followed your topic about "open or not open source code linux".. :) |
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| That's not so bad even without shielding, which is
something i happened to experiment with, lately...
About the GPL problem, i think you are refering to
Angelo168 since my interest for Thomson's FirmWare
is limited to missing features and some customized
'user.ini' file of mine for Twin PPP support. The
SpeedTouch suffers from amnesia and i wish Thomson
could choose to return to a split design strategy,
e.g. where Flash space only holds essentials while
an external utility takes care of configuration...
Then dreaming of full statistics would make sense!
Maybe you've seen the "de-brick" thread too, would
you know potential testers in the neighbourhood???
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