antdude
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Re: Just assume you are a thief, and everyone is.
said by HiVolt  :said by Wolfie00 :Fortunately, and with special thanks to Vista, Linux is looking better all the time. Personally, I'll switch full time to Mac OS before I ever touch any flavour of Linux. What's wrong with Linux? You have to buy a new machine for Mac OS X.
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axus
join:2001-06-18
Washington, DC
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Well duh, government shouldn't be mandating ideas that don't do what they claim to do, in the name of fighting terrorism. Microsoft is mostly a monopoly, but the other 10% of the market can grow bigger because of stupid decisions like WGA. If the gov made them do it, it would be unfair. |
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magusat999
join:2005-07-08
Oakland, CA
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We are being conditioned and coaxed into feeling comfortable with subscription models right now. The astronomical price of software wasn't just "pulled out of someone's butt" - it's high so that at some point people will rather pay subscription fees than put a second on their home to buy it. Wait until Windows creeps up to $999.99... Vista Unlimited is already close to $700.00; that's not price strategy - that's MS taking a bullet in preparation for what's to come... and it really doesn't hurt that much because the majority of users aren't buying Ultimate anyway.
Think about it - why is it you can buy a Dell system with Vista Premium, for the price you would pay for Vista Premium itself??? Because the retail price of Vista is not based on just "what the market can bear" - it's all a part of the MS prescription preparation program. And it isn't just MS who is doing it - they are only the tip of the iceberg.
There is more at stake with a prescription model than more cash... it's another chunk of your privacy sold off. But in this case it isn't just a snapshot - it's a continuous all access pass to your life - the key that opens the door being your friendly neighborhood banking account... and that's money + POWER. |
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dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
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said by RayW :If the US Government were to demand that Microsoft implement this to prevent terrorists from getting free 'high tech' software, then 99 percent of the people here would be against it. But since it is to prevent 'piracy' and Microsoft is the one invading your space, then a lot of folks here think it is ok. I personally hate an unknown, potentially intrusive, babysitter program that assumes I am guilty of theft until proven innocent. I also have always wondered if this is just another step toward removing all traces of personal 'ownership' (yeah, I know, we really just lease the code for one price now) and going to a subscription/rental model and not the anti-'piracy' it is touted as? PPB(Pay per boot) is ultimately what microsoft wants. each license to windows will include a credit/debit card reader which installs in the floppy drive slot.
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cork1958
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"Fortunately, and with special thanks to Vista, Linux is looking better all the time"
Just might could condsider doing that again myself and I'm saying that mainly due to the "thanks to Vista" line above.  |
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HiVolt
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said by Wolfie00 :Fortunately, and with special thanks to Vista, Linux is looking better all the time. Personally, I'll switch full time to Mac OS before I ever touch any flavour of Linux.
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Wolfie00
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said by en102 :But of course it is... you don't 'own' a copy of Windows... you have a license to use a copy of Windows  Give it time, and it will be a yearly 'fee' to run Windows on the PC you purchased. With updates being pretty much essential due to the Microsoft model of shipping software that is broken and/or unfinished, we're perilously close to that already. But it's nothing new: IBM was using "software leasing" concepts ages ago, when they were the ones with the monopoly. Fortunately, and with special thanks to Vista, Linux is looking better all the time.
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KrK
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I love how people connected to get an automatic update, and Microsoft's WGA failed, branded their OS as a counterfeit pirated copy, and then (For Vista users anyway) the OS then started "Penalizing" the "Pirate user" by shutting down the features of the OS.
Wonder how many people's keys (Personal and Business) are now listed in MS's banned databases.
Way to go, MS. People hated WGA before, now you just confirmed their beliefs as correct.
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA
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But of course it is... you don't 'own' a copy of Windows... you have a license to use a copy of Windows
Give it time, and it will be a yearly 'fee' to run Windows on the PC you purchased.
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RayW
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| If the US Government were to demand that Microsoft implement this to prevent terrorists from getting free 'high tech' software, then 99 percent of the people here would be against it. But since it is to prevent 'piracy' and Microsoft is the one invading your space, then a lot of folks here think it is ok.
I personally hate an unknown, potentially intrusive, babysitter program that assumes I am guilty of theft until proven innocent. I also have always wondered if this is just another step toward removing all traces of personal 'ownership' (yeah, I know, we really just lease the code for one price now) and going to a subscription/rental model and not the anti-'piracy' it is touted as?
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