 | Tweaks GNet BB0060B Factory Defaults |  GNet BB0060B Bits-per-Bin & More Tweaks |
I'd like some Feed-Back on this, the UpStream part in particular... |
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 jackr join:2004-03-10 Barrie, ON | Looks like a great modem. Is it? I'm using the 2Wire 2700HG-B and it's ok, but wonder if there's an advantage to switching. Looks like you can do more with this modem. |
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 mlernerPremium join:2000-11-25 Nepean, ON kudos:5 | said by jackr:Looks like a great modem. Is it? I'm using the 2Wire 2700HG-B and it's ok, but wonder if there's an advantage to switching. Looks like you can do more with this modem. In my experience, a good 2Wire modem beats every other modem out there. Some let you tweak but I find the 2Wire modems because of the chips they use tend to give you the best performance out of the box so no adjustments are required. |
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 | reply to jackr Customability is a nice asset but yes, at 63 dB attn. the 2Wire is a champion. |
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 jackr join:2004-03-10 Barrie, ON | reply to Bicephale Thanks.
Because of my ATT, I'm looking to optimize my crappy connection. It appears I've got the best router for the situation. Thanks all.
J. |
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 .PNG/thumb.jpg) 5056-800 Kbps Tweaks (2007-Aug-29) |
Hi,
Anyway, here's the tweaked configuration which i'm testing right now. Factory defaults can't compete with it, FirmWares are too dumb to search for such a set of minute trade-offs, i suppose. As you can see, i didn't sacrifice any bandwidth this time...
Resolution per bin being 4 bits less i'm expecting to have a sturdier signal, only a noise curve will tell me if it's less susceptible to the cross-talk noise which seems to have increased significantly, lately. I'll need to optimize my RCO, eventually.
I'm hoping for some quieter noise curve than this:
 4½ days Noise Record
Addendum over Error Rate
Date: 2007-Aug-29 Time: 13:34:47 Up Time: 38:49:40 (139780 sec) Local CRC: 728/day (1177/139780 sec) Remote CRC: 19/day (31/139780 sec) Local HEC: 559/day (904/139780 sec) Remote HEC: 9/day (15/139780 sec) Local Tx Power: 9.95 dB Remote Tx Power: 19.42 dB Local Line Atten.: 31.0 dB Remote Line Atten.: 30.0 dB Local SNR Margin: 18.5 dB Remote SNR Margin: 8.0 dB
Date: 2007-Aug-29 Time: 20:58:37 Up Time: 46:13:31 (166411 sec) Local CRC: 10163/day (19757/166411 sec) Remote CRC: 17/day (33/166411 sec) Local HEC: 5800/day (11171/166411 sec) Remote HEC: 8/day (16/166411 sec) Local OCD: 1/day (2/166411 sec) Local Tx Power: 9.95 dB Remote Tx Power: 19.38 dB Local Line Atten.: 31.5 dB Remote Line Atten.: 30.0 dB Local SNR Margin: 15.5 dB Remote SNR Margin: 8.0 dB |
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 | reply to Bicephale
 2007-Aug-29 Storm |
That's yesterday's storm, more tweaking is needed. |
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Bits-per-Bin: 12 UpStream Bins: 6 to 31 inclusively DownStream Bins: 34 to 252 (idem) Tx Power Attm.: -1 dB Coding Gain: 7 dB
Date: 2007-Sep-3 Time: 13:12:40 Up Time: 111:0:32 (399632 sec) Local CRC: 2002/day (9261/399632 sec) Remote CRC: 14/day (67/399632 sec) Local HEC: 1189/day (5501/399632 sec) Remote HEC: 7/day (32/399632 sec) Local Tx Power: 10.95 dB Remote Tx Power: 19.40 dB Local Line Atten.: 31.0 dB Remote Line Atten.: 29.0 dB Local SNR Margin: 18.5 dB Remote SNR Margin: 8.0 dB |
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 2 edits |  Feb 7 to 13 + Aug 30 to Sep 3 (2007) |
Preliminary UpDate
It's real quiet from 5:00 to 8:30 and 14:00 to 15:30 no matter the season...
Addendum
Date: 2007-Sep-4 Time: 23:55:30 Up Time: 145:43:25 (524605 sec) Local CRC: 1929/day (11712/524605 sec) Remote CRC: 18/day (108/524605 sec) Local HEC: 1190/day (7225/524605 sec) Remote HEC: 9/day (55/524605 sec) Local Tx Power: 10.95 dB Remote Tx Power: 19.40 dB Local Line Atten.: 31.0 dB Remote Line Atten.: 29.0 dB Local SNR Margin: 16.0 dB Remote SNR Margin: 8.0 dB
2nd UpDate
Source: TekSavvy (2007-Sep-5, 14:19) .-------------+-------+------------+--------------+-------------+-------------. | Operational | Speed | Relative | Noise | Signal | Attenuation | | Status | (Kbs) | Capacity | Margin | Power | (0..60 dB) | | | | Occupation | (0..31 dB) | (0..20 dBm) | | | | | (%) | | | | +-------------+-------+------------+--------------+-------------+-------------+ | UpStream | 800 | 100 | 5.0 | 12.0 | 28.0 | | DownStream | 5056 | 68 | 18.0 | 19.0 | 31.0 | `-------------+-------+------------+--------------+-------------+-------------'
Source: GNet BB0060B Date: 2007-Sep-5 Time: 14:46:13 Up Time: 160:34:10 (578050 sec) Local CRC: 1759/day (11769/578050 sec) Remote CRC: 17/day (112/578050 sec) Local HEC: 1085/day (7256/578050 sec) Remote HEC: 9/day (58/578050 sec) Local Tx Power: 10.95 dB Remote Tx Power: 19.40 dB Local Line Atten.: 31.0 dB Remote Line Atten.: 29.0 dB Local SNR Margin: 18.0 dB Remote SNR Margin: 8.0 dB |
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 |  .PNG/thumb.jpg) GNet "Noise Curves" - Aug. 30 to Sep. 5 (2007) |
Here's some unexpected result:
A wire is a wire is a wire, Bicephale, 2007-Sep-6
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 |  .PNG/thumb.jpg) GNet BB0060B "Noise Curve" (2007-Sep-5) |
Day 7: All noise peaks after 15:30 are man-made...
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 |  .GIF/thumb.jpg) Readings via ISP | %20.GIF) Readings via Local DSL Device |
UpDate
Hummm... I sense a flat/quiet curve coming!
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 |  September 8 to 11 |
Nope! No flat curves for me so far, i'm afraid...

Moving Bell's main line away from power lines just didn't seem to do much and i think i've found why:

The white part is PVC, no magnet will stick to it.

Plan-B was to shield Bell's main line, i've got no noise curves for that just yet but something tells me this isn't the end of my misery... Stay tuned! |
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 .GIF/thumb.jpg) GNet BB0060B Tweaking - Oct. 9 to Oct. 15, 2007 |  .GIF/thumb.jpg) Twin PPP SetUp: ZERO Disconnections - Oct. 9 to Oct. 15, 2007 | %20.GIF) Average Noise Level (aka "Error Rate") - Calculated over 7 Days |  .GIF/thumb.jpg) Relative Capacity Occupancy (RCO) - As seen from the ISP's end |
No outside shielding yet, mainly kitchen activity. |
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 .GIF/thumb.jpg) Man Made Noise - RCO | %20.GIF) Man Made Noise - Peaks |
Hummm...
Well, it doesn't beat that (the "After" part, i mean):
 A wire is a wire is a wire, Bicephale, 2007-Sep-08
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 Shielding Work Finally Completed... |  .GIF/thumb.jpg) Graphs (Man-Made Noise) vs Shielding |
Here goes "Plan-B"! |
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 .PNG/thumb.jpg) Tweaks & RCO - Full Shielding (2007-Oct-22) |
This confirms that all noise isn't being rejected yet... |
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 | reply to mlerner 2wire suck's I have 2 brand new and refurb and speedstream 6520 and 4200 both the simens outpreforme the 2 wier modem |
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 | Hi Piotr_1,
Some people are very happy with their SS4200 while others prefer a 2Wire, for me it's a GNet and i've shown why i appreciate it exactly but you and i we don't seem to speak the same language if all there is to discuss is related to devices that "suck"...

I'm curious about all brands and models as long as i can obtain more than qualitative information so, if you don't mind, you'd please me quite genuinely if you could find the time to add such a snapshot:
 SNR Drops at regular intervals, HiVolt, 2007-Oct-18
The same goes of MLerner even if he was here about two month ago already. I don't mind, i'm patient!

As you can see, this thread is related to tweaking a variety of parameters and, while i test them, it provides a great opportunity for trouble-shooting.
All i care about is what an SS4200 or else will do for me should i get my hands on one of those and i woulnd't mind at all if you could show us what the SpeedStreams 4200 & 6520 are capable of, honestly!
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 Who was cooking at 11h30? Not me! |
Now i think i'm capturing my neighbour's cooking hour: the peak at 11h30 didn't come from here! |
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