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Bicephale

join:2005-09-24
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Tweaks

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GNet BB0060B Factory Defaults
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GNet BB0060B Bits-per-Bin & More Tweaks
I'd like some Feed-Back on this, the UpStream part in particular...


jackr

join:2004-03-10
Barrie, ON

Looks like a great modem. Is it? I'm using the 2Wire 2700HG-B and it's ok, but wonder if there's an advantage to switching. Looks like you can do more with this modem.



mlerner
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join:2000-11-25
Nepean, ON
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said by jackr:

Looks like a great modem. Is it? I'm using the 2Wire 2700HG-B and it's ok, but wonder if there's an advantage to switching. Looks like you can do more with this modem.
In my experience, a good 2Wire modem beats every other modem out there. Some let you tweak but I find the 2Wire modems because of the chips they use tend to give you the best performance out of the box so no adjustments are required.


Bicephale

join:2005-09-24
kudos:3

reply to jackr
Customability is a nice asset but yes, at 63 dB attn. the 2Wire is a champion.



jackr

join:2004-03-10
Barrie, ON

reply to Bicephale
Thanks.

Because of my ATT, I'm looking to optimize my crappy connection. It appears I've got the best router for the situation.
Thanks all.

J.



Bicephale

join:2005-09-24
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5056-800 Kbps Tweaks (2007-Aug-29)
Hi,

Anyway, here's the tweaked configuration which i'm
testing right now.  Factory defaults can't compete
with it, FirmWares are too dumb to search for such
a set of minute trade-offs, i suppose.  As you can
see, i didn't sacrifice any bandwidth this time...

Resolution per bin being 4 bits less i'm expecting
to have a sturdier signal, only a noise curve will
tell me if it's less susceptible to the cross-talk
noise which seems to have increased significantly,
lately.  I'll need to optimize my RCO, eventually.

I'm hoping for some quieter noise curve than this:


4½ days Noise Record




Addendum over Error Rate

              Date:  2007-Aug-29
              Time:  13:34:47
           Up Time:  38:49:40 (139780 sec)
         Local CRC:   728/day (1177/139780 sec)
        Remote CRC:    19/day (31/139780 sec)
         Local HEC:   559/day (904/139780 sec)
        Remote HEC:     9/day (15/139780 sec)
    Local Tx Power:   9.95 dB
   Remote Tx Power:  19.42 dB
 Local Line Atten.:  31.0  dB
Remote Line Atten.:  30.0  dB
  Local SNR Margin:  18.5  dB
 Remote SNR Margin:   8.0  dB

              Date:  2007-Aug-29
              Time:  20:58:37
           Up Time:  46:13:31 (166411 sec)
         Local CRC: 10163/day (19757/166411 sec)
        Remote CRC:    17/day (33/166411 sec)
         Local HEC:  5800/day (11171/166411 sec)
        Remote HEC:     8/day (16/166411 sec)
         Local OCD:     1/day (2/166411 sec)
    Local Tx Power:   9.95 dB
   Remote Tx Power:  19.38 dB
 Local Line Atten.:  31.5  dB
Remote Line Atten.:  30.0  dB
  Local SNR Margin:  15.5  dB
 Remote SNR Margin:   8.0  dB


Bicephale

join:2005-09-24
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2007-Aug-29 Storm
That's yesterday's storm, more tweaking is needed.


Bicephale

join:2005-09-24
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Update

       Bits-per-Bin:  12
      UpStream Bins:   6 to  31 inclusively
    DownStream Bins:  34 to 252 (idem)
     Tx Power Attm.:  -1 dB
        Coding Gain:   7 dB

               Date:  2007-Sep-3
               Time:  13:12:40
            Up Time:  111:0:32 (399632 sec)
          Local CRC:  2002/day (9261/399632 sec)
         Remote CRC:    14/day (67/399632 sec)
          Local HEC:  1189/day (5501/399632 sec)
         Remote HEC:     7/day (32/399632 sec)
     Local Tx Power:  10.95 dB
    Remote Tx Power:  19.40 dB
  Local Line Atten.:  31.0  dB
 Remote Line Atten.:  29.0  dB
   Local SNR Margin:  18.5  dB
  Remote SNR Margin:   8.0  dB



Bicephale

join:2005-09-24
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Feb 7 to 13 + Aug 30 to Sep 3 (2007)
Preliminary UpDate

It's real quiet from 5:00 to 8:30 and 14:00 to 15:30 no matter the season...




Addendum

               Date:  2007-Sep-4
               Time:  23:55:30
            Up Time:  145:43:25 (524605 sec)
          Local CRC:  1929/day (11712/524605 sec)
         Remote CRC:    18/day (108/524605 sec)
          Local HEC:  1190/day (7225/524605 sec)
         Remote HEC:     9/day (55/524605 sec)
     Local Tx Power:  10.95 dB
    Remote Tx Power:  19.40 dB
  Local Line Atten.:  31.0  dB
 Remote Line Atten.:  29.0  dB
   Local SNR Margin:  16.0  dB
  Remote SNR Margin:   8.0  dB




2nd UpDate

Source:  TekSavvy (2007-Sep-5, 14:19)
 .-------------+-------+------------+--------------+-------------+-------------.
 | Operational | Speed |   Relative |        Noise |      Signal | Attenuation |
 |      Status | (Kbs) |   Capacity |       Margin |       Power |  (0..60 dB) |
 |             |       | Occupation |   (0..31 dB) | (0..20 dBm) |             |
 |             |       |        (%) |              |             |             |
 +-------------+-------+------------+--------------+-------------+-------------+
 |    UpStream |   800 |        100 |          5.0 |        12.0 |        28.0 |
 |  DownStream |  5056 |         68 |         18.0 |        19.0 |        31.0 |
 `-------------+-------+------------+--------------+-------------+-------------'

             Source:  GNet BB0060B
               Date:  2007-Sep-5
               Time:  14:46:13
            Up Time:  160:34:10 (578050 sec)
          Local CRC:  1759/day (11769/578050 sec)
         Remote CRC:    17/day (112/578050 sec)
          Local HEC:  1085/day (7256/578050 sec)
         Remote HEC:     9/day (58/578050 sec)
     Local Tx Power:  10.95 dB
    Remote Tx Power:  19.40 dB
  Local Line Atten.:  31.0  dB
 Remote Line Atten.:  29.0  dB
   Local SNR Margin:  18.0  dB
  Remote SNR Margin:   8.0  dB


Bicephale

join:2005-09-24
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GNet "Noise Curves" - Aug. 30 to Sep. 5 (2007)
Here's some unexpected result:

A wire is a wire is a wire, Bicephale, 2007-Sep-6



Bicephale

join:2005-09-24
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GNet BB0060B "Noise Curve" (2007-Sep-5)
Day 7:  All noise peaks after 15:30 are man-made...



Bicephale

join:2005-09-24
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Readings via ISP

Readings via Local DSL Device
UpDate

Hummm...  I sense a flat/quiet curve coming!



Bicephale

join:2005-09-24
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September 8 to 11
Nope!  No flat curves for me so far, i'm afraid...



Moving Bell's main line away from power lines just
didn't seem to do much and i think i've found why:



The white part is PVC, no magnet will stick to it.



Plan-B was to shield Bell's main line, i've got no
noise curves for that just yet but something tells
me this isn't the end of my misery...  Stay tuned!


Bicephale

join:2005-09-24
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GNet BB0060B Tweaking - Oct. 9 to Oct. 15, 2007
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Twin PPP SetUp: ZERO Disconnections - Oct. 9 to Oct. 15, 2007

Average Noise Level (aka "Error Rate") - Calculated over 7 Days
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Relative Capacity Occupancy (RCO) - As seen from the ISP's end
No outside shielding yet, mainly kitchen activity.


Bicephale

join:2005-09-24
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Man Made Noise - RCO

Man Made Noise - Peaks
Hummm...

Well, it doesn't beat that (the "After" part, i mean):


A wire is a wire is a wire, Bicephale, 2007-Sep-08




Bicephale

join:2005-09-24
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reply to Bicephale

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Shielding Work Finally Completed...
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Graphs (Man-Made Noise) vs Shielding
Here goes "Plan-B"!


Bicephale

join:2005-09-24
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Tweaks & RCO - Full Shielding (2007-Oct-22)
This confirms that all noise isn't being rejected yet...

piotr_1

join:2005-04-04
canada

reply to mlerner
2wire suck's I have 2 brand new and refurb and speedstream 6520 and 4200 both the simens outpreforme the 2 wier modem



Bicephale

join:2005-09-24
kudos:3

Hi Piotr_1,

Some people are very happy with their SS4200 while
others prefer a 2Wire, for me it's a GNet and i've
shown why i appreciate it exactly but you and i we
don't seem to speak the same language if all there
is to discuss is related to devices that "suck"...



I'm curious about all brands and models as long as
i can obtain more than qualitative information so,
if you don't mind, you'd please me quite genuinely
if you could find the time to add such a snapshot:


SNR Drops at regular intervals, HiVolt, 2007-Oct-18


The same goes of MLerner even if he was here about
two month ago already.  I don't mind, i'm patient!



As you can see, this thread is related to tweaking
a variety of parameters and, while i test them, it
provides a great opportunity for trouble-shooting.

All i care about is what an SS4200 or else will do
for me should i get my hands on one of those and i
woulnd't mind at all if you could show us what the
SpeedStreams 4200 & 6520 are capable of, honestly!



Bicephale

join:2005-09-24
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Who was cooking at 11h30? Not me!
Now i think i'm capturing my neighbour's cooking
hour:  the peak at 11h30 didn't come from here!
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