Nightfall
My Goal Is To Deny Yours
Premium,MVM
join:2001-08-03
Grand Rapids, MI
 ·Site5.com
 ·AT&T Midwest
 ·Comcast
| reply to Thaler
Re: I have never in my life
said by Thaler  :said by Nightfall :Once again....is there any link or print advertisement that shows that Comcast HSI is unlimited in anyway? Even reading their TOS clearly states that it isn't "unlimited". Talk to any internet provider's sales, with or without caps. Its almost damn near reflexive for them to include "unlimited" with the bundle description. All I know is everywhere I've gone, speeds aren't advertised, but the introductory rate (along with the "unlimited") are as well. Wish I could find something for ya, but its almost harder to find big boards without the unlimited toting around our area. Point is that I haven't seen a sign touting "unlimited" broadband in quite some time. Especially from Comcast, who I remember back in 2001 or 2002 would advertise it. Since then, nothing.
Yet there are boatloads of people here claiming they are still advertising it and that Comcast is made of up a bunch of lying bitches. Well, I haven't seen a lick of proof of a single ad that has come out in the last 4 years that has advertised "unlimited" broadband internet for Comcast. |
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lt_wentoncha
Red6
join:2002-05-12
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| said by Nightfall :said by Thaler :said by Nightfall :Once again....is there any link or print advertisement that shows that Comcast HSI is unlimited in anyway? Even reading their TOS clearly states that it isn't "unlimited". Talk to any internet provider's sales, with or without caps. Its almost damn near reflexive for them to include "unlimited" with the bundle description. All I know is everywhere I've gone, speeds aren't advertised, but the introductory rate (along with the "unlimited") are as well. Wish I could find something for ya, but its almost harder to find big boards without the unlimited toting around our area. Point is that I haven't seen a sign touting "unlimited" broadband in quite some time. Especially from Comcast, who I remember back in 2001 or 2002 would advertise it. Since then, nothing. Yet there are boatloads of people here claiming they are still advertising it and that Comcast is made of up a bunch of lying bitches. Well, I haven't seen a lick of proof of a single ad that has come out in the last 4 years that has advertised "unlimited" broadband internet for Comcast. So then they should post their caps, by regional market, if necessary. How hard is it to put together a page to do that?
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AnotherGuy
@york.com
| reply to N3OGH
How is the consumer expected to keep their usage non-abusive if they don't have a definition of abuse? For the people who would define abuse as "That which causes degradation for other users", how exactly do you accomplish non-abusive use? I can tell you how I attempt to do this. I run QoS to throttle my connection back to the point where I only occasionally add 1 millisecond of latency between my cable modem and anything else. I Ping my gateway, ping Yahoo, and I am not adding latency for myself. This way, I should see the impact of my usage before any one else would.
Responsible traffic shaping at the ISP would be difficult to even notice, and would end my need to throttle my connection, which I only do to be sure I am not dragging the neighborhood down. I am a responsible netizen.
The definition of abuse needs to be stated by the ISP. If it is stated as something similar to "Don't negatively impact other users", and I am doing everything that can be done on this end of the wire to be sure I am not abusive per their definition, I should have nothing to worry about, right?
I did about 80GB of transfer this month, and I put in real effort to make sure that my usage doesn't impact anyone negatively, using everything I can use on my end of the wire. Someone tell me, am I abusing my connection? If so, explain to me how I would go about knowing if I was abusing it, beyond what I am already doing.
And why should I bother when my ISP won't help? |
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yulek
join:2000-12-25
Alameda, CA
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| reply to Rick
said by Rick :300 gigs a month. Many of us won't use that in our entire LIFETIMES. Much less in one month. Can we get real? check out amazon's s3 service and jungledisk and others who use it. i back up to jungledisk. i have 50GB of data that i backed up to jungledisk (photos and music (legit, thank you) mostly). a full backup to jungledisk would be 400Gbs. oops. |
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Budo7
Budo7
Premium
join:2005-03-22
Edgewater, MD
 ·Verizon FIOS
| reply to djrobx
Some months I go over 300 gigs, and others maybe 3 gigs. It depends on what I am doing. I do some stuff for a game company, and when we are hot and heavy into testing, I may download a new build each night, at 2-5 gigs a night. As with most things, they come in 3 so when I am testing it is usually 3 games at onces. So I can go over 450 a month. I have lol however I have never been cut off, nor have I gotten a letter.
I may have 1 month in 3 that I download that much, but it happens. So I have no complaints with Comacast. |
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Nightfall
My Goal Is To Deny Yours
Premium,MVM
join:2001-08-03
Grand Rapids, MI
·Site5.com
·AT&T Midwest
·Comcast
| reply to lt_wentoncha
said by lt_wentoncha :So then they should post their caps, by regional market, if necessary. How hard is it to put together a page to do that? What does this have to do with people saying the Comcast advertises "Unlimited" service and yet not an ounce of proof has been shown to substantiate it?
I am all for Comcast revealing these caps. I am sure people from other ISPs who have gotten bandwidth warning letters would like to see the same responses from their respective providers as well. This is far deeper than just a Comcast issue. |
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lt_wentoncha
Red6
join:2002-05-12
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| said by Nightfall :said by lt_wentoncha :So then they should post their caps, by regional market, if necessary. How hard is it to put together a page to do that? What does this have to do with people saying the Comcast advertises "Unlimited" service and yet not an ounce of proof has been shown to substantiate it? I am all for Comcast revealing these caps. I am sure people from other ISPs who have gotten bandwidth warning letters would like to see the same responses from their respective providers as well. This is far deeper than just a Comcast issue. I'm not sure why you're still hung up on the issue. The way I see it, they've advertised that they were unlimited for a while. They stopped advertising that as you've mentioned, but don't advertise the fact that it is indeed limited. Perhaps they don't want to clarify the presence of caps fr fear of loss of revenue, but if they were as zealous about clarifying their caps as they were about their unlimited service in the past these complaints wouldn't keep popping up. So this will continue to be a perennial issue until Comcast or any other ISP with caps clarifies their policies. Until then, see you next week in another ISP hidden cap complaint thread.
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TheOneFiber
@verizon.net
| reply to Rick
As stated by so many people, the amount of bandwidth usage is highly dependant on what your form of employment, and conditions at home are. I work from home....and as such I have 3 computers and 2 servers on 1 network running through a 6th computer to monitor use among other things. Depending on what I'm doing, I might use 16gb in a day, or 16 mb of bandwith. I personally think Comcasts service is craptastic due to the fact that it's overpriced; $70 for what I got, plain ol' internet access, and a top speed of actually 3mb/s, not the advertised 7, which was the reason I switched to fiber. |
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