battleop
join:2005-09-28
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| reply to Richard B
Re: Dude..
"Take my area, Verizon owns the wiring, switching and DSLAM equipment." Yes, this is called "The Last Mile" There is much more to DSL service than ploping out DSLAMS.
AT&T will bring our customer's DSL circuit back to their Central office. Then they will mux all of our DSL clients together. They then cross connect our fiber to their shasta box and send our DSL customers down our fiber to our datacenter. We then terminate the DSL customers in our routers, with our IPs. They are then sent out to the internet over our backbone feeds. This is how we serve each LATA we are in. The multi LATA ISPs do this a little differently, but it's the same basic concept.
People bitch enough about 1 Vrad. Imagine how bad they would bitch if every ISP that provides internet put out a box. I am in a small to medium market. I know of 4 Local ISPs, plus Earthlink, AT&T, AOL, and a half dozen other ISPs/Clecs that offer DSL. Just for arguments sake lets say there were 10 ISPs offering DSL. That's 10 times the number of boxes on the side of the road and 10 times the number of cables on the telephone poles and if they decided to take it further maybe 10 times the number of telephone poles.
Offering DSL is more than just "reselling bits that is traveling on the Telco's hardware." |
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whfsdude
Premium
join:2003-04-05
Washington, DC
| reply to Richard B
said by Richard B  :SHOW ME. Take my area, Verizon owns the wiring, switching and DSLAM equipment. All EarthLink is doing is reselling bits that is traveling on the Telco's hardware. Earthlink/COVAD put their own DSLAMS in the CO and only lease the copper. Which means they can offer custom sync rates with their own DSLAMS/network and also can run ADSL2 and IDSL. Verizon cannot/will not do that.
In fact, Verizon doesn't own any ADSL2 DSLAMs. |
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jsimmons
Premium,MVM
join:2000-04-24
Falls Church, VA
| reply to Richard B
When a customer orders DSL from Earthlink, that DSL circuit (which Earthlink can't provide itself) can be provisioned by either an ILEC (like Verizon), or CLEC (like Covad) - depending on who can offer service at that address. Covad has to have DSLAM equipment co-located at the Verizon POP serving that address before its serevice can be selected. So sure, in many cases Verizon will get the order to provide the DSL circuit, but still it has to route the packets onto Earthlink's network (Not Verizon's). It is just contracted to carry the packets over the "last mile". In cases where both the ILEC and CLEC can provide DSL service to the address, its a toss-up which provider gets the DSL order from Earthlink. In some cases the Customer (if smart enough) can request one or the other and Earthlink may honor the request.
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N3OGH
Bear patrol must be working like a charm
Premium
join:2003-11-11
Philly burbs | reply to Richard B
As my mother used to say.....
"Fight nice, children." |
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Richard B
Fur It Up
join:2007-06-22
Portland, OR
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"Also, Earthlink provides Interent service at greater distances then many of the telcos do. My friend in MA, wouldn't HAVE broadband Internet if it wasn't for Earthlink. Verizon claimed that he was too far away from the Central Office to qualify for their DSL and cable isn't available at his house. Earthlink sold him 1500/384 DSL that's given him great service for many years!"
SHOW ME.
Take my area, Verizon owns the wiring, switching and DSLAM equipment. All EarthLink is doing is reselling bits that is traveling on the Telco's hardware. |
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