 KrKHeavy Artillery For The Little GuyPremium
join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK
 ·AT&T DSL Service
2 edits | Uh... Photo switches ? Ok uh excuse me if this seems so obvious as to be silly, but they make "Light detection" or "Photo" switches that automatically turn lights on and off based on the level of light conditions.
IE the lights come on at Dusk, or during a heavy thunderstorm, etc, and turn off at daybreak. They are very small, very cheap, and easily wired.
SO: Why not set the bank switches to ON 24/7 for the poles and have AT&T install the photo switches @ the poles to automatically turn the light off and on locally. Take all of 5 mins of wiring, too. You could even have a local throw switch to cut power completely (override) in case technicians need to do emergency service at night or something.
Is there something I'm missing? This seems awfully easy problem to resolve! |
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 jack bGone FishingPremium,MVM
join:2000-09-08
Cape Cod
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1 edit | Exactly.
Those 3 prong photo-sensors cost like 12 bucks each, retail. Throw in a few bucks more for a receptacle, a half hour labor to install and, voila. Problem solved.
Give me all the materials and a hundred bucks a pole, and I'll do the work.
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Someone please correct me if I am wrong but I believe the mercury vapor lights used in most metro areas operate off of 440v and sometimes higher. I believe that most all AP's operate at the 48vdc level and some have direct 120v input. Seems to me that the project engineer failed to ask the right questions about power if at all. At this point, I believe someone mentioned SOLAR. |
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 BassistguyAlrighty ThenPremium
join:2001-07-14
Ballwin, MO | reply to KrK
said by KrK:Ok uh excuse me if this seems so obvious as to be silly, but they make "Light detection" or "Photo" switches that automatically turn lights on and off based on the level of light conditions. IE the lights come on at Dusk, or during a heavy thunderstorm, etc, and turn off at daybreak. They are very small, very cheap, and easily wired. SO: Why not set the bank switches to ON 24/7 for the poles and have AT&T install the photo switches @ the poles to automatically turn the light off and on locally. Take all of 5 mins of wiring, too. You could even have a local throw switch to cut power completely (override) in case technicians need to do emergency service at night or something. Is there something I'm missing? This seems awfully easy problem to resolve! All of the street lights already come on based on the amount of light present (even coming on during heavy overcast). To make your suggestion work, the city would have to change the power banks to constant power, and then install light detection on each street light coming off of that particular power bank. Street lights are, at my best guess, placed about every 150 to 250 feet from each other in a lot of the neighborhoods here, so that could get expensive. So, it just depends on how much money AT&T and/or the city wants to spend to make these modifications. |
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KrKHeavy Artillery For The Little GuyPremium
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Tulsa, OK Reviews:
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Oh no! The more I think about this, the more I picture the scene from The HitchHiker's Guide to the Galaxy when the Vogons are are attacking at Dent's house, and while chasing Ford around he closes the small garden gate in front of them....
Vogon: Oh No! He's closed the gate from the inside! We'll have to go round!
LOL If you haven't seen the movie, you won't understand why this is so funny but imagine some big huge guys being stopped by a 2ft tall small wooden gate. LOL
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KrKHeavy Artillery For The Little GuyPremium
join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK | reply to jack b
Re: Uh... Photo switches ? That's retail price to the public, too. You can get em in industrial lots or in bulk for much less. |
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 alanhdslPremium
join:1999-10-09
Phoenix, AZ | reply to jack b
The main problem with installing photo sensors is that they have to install one for every light in the bank, not just the one where the access point it. I'm wondering if the bank switches are close enough together so that the APs could be installed at them. |
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KrKHeavy Artillery For The Little GuyPremium
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Also, maybe they could consider for many areas using Stop-Lights for power. They're on 24/7. The street lights would be more pervasive into neighborhoods tho.
Also, maybe they could mount them on other structures like Billboards, Water Towers, and Electric poles?
Just options I guess. Find what is cheapest/easiest and do it.
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KearnstdElf WizardPremium
join:2002-01-22
Mullica Hill, NJ | reply to KrK
what about hooking up to the grid lines? each building must have a 220v off the transformer(which can be stepped to 12/24/48 whatever the wifi needs). id imagine the street lights also serve as the electric poles.
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wispagod
join:2001-06-28
House Springs, MO | reply to alanhdsl
and then multiply that by 1000's of poles, and ATT cringes at the thought! |
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BassistguyAlrighty ThenPremium
join:2001-07-14
Ballwin, MO | reply to Kearnstd
said by Kearnstd:id imagine the street lights also serve as the electric poles. The "Alley Lights" are mounted on electric poles. The street lights that are pictured in this article only serve as the street light. I have seen street lights mounted to electric poles, but can't recall any in the St. Louis city area, other than the "alley lights" (I don't know what else to call them other than alley lights...lol).
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