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Re: No.
said by telcolackey  :That is true, but it doesn't answer the business question. which is a real issue. Here is an answer to the business question
Provide a better service and people will use it. This may LOOK like its about BT but it really isn't. Its about setting the market up for a 1 tap source for ALL content.
Imagine going to your local Supermarket and all they sell is their market brand, think they would last long?
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telcolackey
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That is true, but it doesn't answer the business question. which is a real issue. |
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matrix3D
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Why should a 3rd party get to use your bandwidth for free to sell their product or service to another individual?
Uh, because it's P2P and more efficient than serving everybody from a single server perhaps? |
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said by knightmb :said by supergirl :Bandwidth hogs (read upstream hogs) are a problem. They should just get a business class already. I have a business class connection and it doesn't make you immune. We have the same TOS that everyone else does. The only difference is that we can run servers and have no port restrictions, that's about it. If we had servers sending out the last video 24/7 at max Upload; Comcast would shut us down just as fast. Not only that, you ride on the same wires that your residential neighbors use.
Pushing your neighbors who are heavier users to a "business class" connection doesn't solve anything for you. You share the same 38 Mbps node with all your neighbors -- business or otherwise.
If you're interested in this technology, look up DOCSIS in Wikipedia and read how Cable-Internet works. It will help you to understand the various issues.
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telcolackey
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said by amungus :I was also able to upload just fine so that I could share with the other fans, so I let it run all night after I got done downloading, figuring I'd be cool and share with fellow fans... Think through that a little. Why should a 3rd party get to use your bandwidth for free to sell their product or service to another individual? And why shouldn't an ISP have an issue with that? |
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knightmb
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said by supergirl :said by quatrix :"It's in your best interests that these practices are transparent, so you fully understand what kind of a broadband connection you're buying." No, it's only in the best interests of the mega-bandwidth hogs. For the other 99% of users, it's better for that 1% to get their service cut than to know what the cap is. Bandwidth hogs (read upstream hogs) are a problem. They should just get a business class already. I have a business class connection and it doesn't make you immune. We have the same TOS that everyone else does. The only difference is that we can run servers and have no port restrictions, that's about it. If we had servers sending out the last video 24/7 at max Upload; Comcast would shut us down just as fast. |
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said by quatrix :"It's in your best interests that these practices are transparent, so you fully understand what kind of a broadband connection you're buying." No, it's only in the best interests of the mega-bandwidth hogs. For the other 99% of users, it's better for that 1% to get their service cut than to know what the cap is. Bandwidth hogs (read upstream hogs) are a problem. They should just get a business class already.
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amungus
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wow.
I don't use bit-torrent, but the other day, I had to in order to get a (legally free) video that I wanted to watch.
I was also able to upload just fine so that I could share with the other fans, so I let it run all night after I got done downloading, figuring I'd be cool and share with fellow fans... I did limit the upload to about half of what my total gets, so that I could still use my connection, and not be a "hog" on the upstream.
Guess if I had Comcast, I'd have issues and not know why (unless I knew this site  ).
So, thanks for making a really dumb assumption and starting what's sure to be a barrage of pointless comments aimed at countering your opinion...
I'll start another one - I ought to be able to use my bandwidth for WHATEVER type of packets I choose to. No, I don't "HOG" it all the time either. Why should the delivery mechanism instantly trigger such a negative response amongst people just because some people use it for shady purposes. You might as well say the same exact things about http traffic, ftp traffic, or any other kind of traffic.
Such a limited perspective IMHO. |
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quatrix
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| "It's in your best interests that these practices are transparent, so you fully understand what kind of a broadband connection you're buying."
No, it's only in the best interests of the mega-bandwidth hogs. For the other 99% of users, it's better for that 1% to get their service cut than to know what the cap is. |
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