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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1376775"><b>Fox McCloud</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  MrMoody <A HREF="/useremail/u/683237"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>I'd pay $89 for 20/2, and have one of the fastest residential connections in this entire FiOS-free state.<br><br>But I doubt they'll do it any time soon either for several reasons, among which are: No competition at that level in virtually any of their territory, special customer equipment & pro install required, increased support headaches, increased more difficult maintenance, limited port availability, bandwidth hogs would be even more so ...<br> </div>not to mention the fact that Embarq is very lacking on backhaul bandwidth.<br><br>I personally think what Embarq is attempting to do, as of now, is to light up as many RT's and CO's with DSL as quickly as possible so they can attain 100% coverage some time in late 2008-2009 (I'd think 2009). That way, they don't have to worry about "oh, this area can't get DSL" or "hey! No fair, we're the last town in Embarq territory to get DSL". Then, once that build-out is completely, hopefully they'll address their backhaul issue....if they don't...I don't see how they'll make it...]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 16:26:37 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/683237"><b>MrMoody</b></A> : I'd pay $89 for 20/2, and have one of the fastest residential connections in this entire FiOS-free state.<br><br>But I doubt they'll do it any time soon either for several reasons, among which are: No competition at that level in virtually any of their territory, special customer equipment & pro install required, increased support headaches, increased more difficult maintenance, limited port availability, bandwidth hogs would be even more so ...]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 14:40:06 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1376775"><b>Fox McCloud</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  MrMoody <A HREF="/useremail/u/683237"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>Actually this is not strictly true. In order to run 3 Mb up, the equipment must support <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ITU_G.992.5_Annex_M">Annex M</a>, which the current modems do not. A firmware update might do it or it could be that the hardware is not capable of it at all. Then there's the DSLAMs as well. 896k is the approximate net speed you get from the maximum ADSL2+ 1024k connection.<br> </div>My mistake.<br><br>I would certainly hope Embarq has been putting in ADSL2+M cards into their DSLAM....I  can see the modems not being able to handle it, but that would only require a new modem; big deal.<br><br>The one silver lining about ADSL2+ and ADSL2+M is that it supports port bonding; therefore, we could theoretically see speeds around 96 meg down and 14 meg up if they wanted to...I highly doubt they'll do this though.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 13:18:37 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/683237"><b>MrMoody</b></A> : Actually this is not strictly true. In order to run 3 Mb up, the equipment must support <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ITU_G.992.5_Annex_M">Annex M</a>, which the current modems do not. A firmware update might do it or it could be that the hardware is not capable of it at all. Then there's the DSLAMs as well. 896k is the approximate net speed you get from the maximum ADSL2+ 1024k connection.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 12:51:46 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/480231"><b>old_dawg</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  indy0365 <A HREF="/useremail/u/460174"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>just bring back ion  oh wait too much $$$$$$ lost<br> </div>Yeah, make that billions (that's with a "B") as well as the<br>thousands of employees kicked to the curb.<br>Enter WiMAx, the next ION ! :uhh:<br><small>--<br>"Our network engineers are aware of the problem..."</small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2007 00:12:36 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/683237"><b>MrMoody</b></A> : You want to see pathetic, 10/896 would be more than double the speed of Time Warner's highest tier in this county - in both directions.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 21:50:59 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1376775"><b>Fox McCloud</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  wispagod <A HREF="/useremail/u/420278"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>well at least when the only thing around was dial up , it was easy buy a 2400bauf or s 28.8 baud modem :( gezz i miss the simplicity of the good ol day's<br> </div>I really like the latest and greatest thing, but even then, I know your exact feelings; there's times when things weren't so advanced that choices were a lot simpler.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 20:23:14 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/420278"><b>wispagod</b></A> : well at least when the only thing around was dial up , it was easy buy a 2400bauf or s 28.8 baud modem :( gezz i miss the simplicity of the good ol day's]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 18:12:44 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1376775"><b>Fox McCloud</b></A> : 896k isn't an ADSL limitation; they could push around 3 meg up with ADSL2+...they simply chose 896k....for whatever reason; hopefully that'll get bumped up to 1024k when it's launched nationwide.<br><br>I live close enough to a RT to easily get 10 (or even 20) meg service, but it doesn't have a DSLAM...so, hopefully, when this package is launched nationwide, they'll already have (or will in the very near future) be deploying a DSLAM at my RT....10meg/900k would be really nice....]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 16:47:19 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/460174"><b>indy0365</b></A> : just bring back ion  oh wait too much $$$$$$ lost<br><br> from 2000   &raquo;<A HREF="http://www.internetnews.com/xSP/article.php/417951" >www.internetnews.com/xSP/article.php/417951</A>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 16:47:18 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/460174"><b>indy0365</b></A> : just bring back ion  oh wait too much $$$$$$ lost]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 16:46:12 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1024146"><b>fcisler</b></A> : 10Mbps/<b>896kbps</b><br><br>Wow...that's pathetic...absolutely pathetic....not even a full meg up?<br><br>In order to be getting those speeds, they <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ADSL#ADSL_standards">must be using ADSL2</a>.<br><br>I didn't realize that ADSL was just THAT sh*tty! ]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 16:38:24 EDT</pubDate>
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