Re: Users hosting Gateway AP's breaking ISP TOS??? in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r19004804 en Wed, 09 Dec 2009 07:19:31 EDT Wed, 09 Dec 2009 07:19:31 EDT Re: Users hosting Gateway AP's breaking ISP TOS??? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19007029 JoeG4 : Seems a little lame to me, IMHO. So basically, they offer everyone in SF free internet, and pass the costs on to their paying customers. *rolls eyes*

Hey that's what I'm seeing! :huh:]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19007029 Tue, 04 Sep 2007 03:25:13 EDT Re: Users hosting Gateway AP's breaking ISP TOS??? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19006771 unoriginal : You can install DD-WRT on it. I used my Fon as a repeater for my main WRT54G also running DD-WRT.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19006771 Tue, 04 Sep 2007 01:16:31 EDT Re: Users hosting Gateway AP's breaking ISP TOS??? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19006076 NJxxxJon : Screw this crap on Street Lights....we need CAMERAS to catch crime on street lights. Did FON ever work? I still have the damn router thing. I should sell or mod the hell out of it.
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Directional antennas between nodes.

Pick the least used channels in your neighborhood.

Low loss Times Microwave Systems LMR-400 or LMR-600 coax for feedlines.

Do more research on RF propagation at 2.4GHz.

You still need to do battle with your own Microwave Oven.
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We're Gonna Need A Bigger Boat !!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19005456 Mon, 03 Sep 2007 21:03:26 EDT Re: Users hosting Gateway AP's breaking ISP TOS??? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19005021 rec9140 :
said by KA3SGM See Profile :
what about my Dual gateway 8 Node Meraki network I am running???

It covers a good 1/4 to 1/2 mile around my neighborhood.


OOooooo...good some one who has some of these and has technical knowledge to post about their operation.

How about some pix's of your sites.

Some posts about your experiences in setup, operation, etc. would be great. Especially from some one who has a RF background.

I've been thinking of putting these up in an area as my own little project, so some input from some one using them would be great.
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said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

said by KA3SGM See Profile :

]Good Lord, what about my Dual gateway 8 Node Meraki network I am running???

It covers a good 1/4 to 1/2 mile around my neighborhood.

...but wait, it's set up with WPA Encryption, and only my Laptop and my kids Sony PSP have the WPA key.

My own PERSONAL mini-muni WiFi project.

I don't see how that violates any ISP's TOS as long as I don't resell their service or offer it up for free.
And it doesn't violate any TOS. Your links, that you pay for, and only your family using it. Then no contract terms are violated.
The Meraki firmware seems pretty capable of doing some really neat things.

I don't know if it can go this far, but I see a wireless mesh topology world, where your nodes can route your neighbors traffic, and your neighbors nodes route yours, all operating seamlessly, with no loss of security.

Everyone has their own private gateway, and access to it via a much larger muni WiFi platform.

WOW, If John Lennon was alive today, he would probably write a song about it.

Imagine there was no 2.4GHz co-channel interference.....
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We're Gonna Need A Bigger Boat !!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19004804 Mon, 03 Sep 2007 19:12:07 EDT Re: Users hosting Gateway AP's breaking ISP TOS??? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19004304 TKJunkMail :
said by KA3SGM See Profile :

]Good Lord, what about my Dual gateway 8 Node Meraki network I am running???

It covers a good 1/4 to 1/2 mile around my neighborhood.

...but wait, it's set up with WPA Encryption, and only my Laptop and my kids Sony PSP have the WPA key.

My own PERSONAL mini-muni WiFi project.

I don't see how that violates any ISP's TOS as long as I don't resell their service or offer it up for free.
And it doesn't violate any TOS. Your links, that you pay for, and only your family using it. Then no contract terms are violated.
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said by DaneJasper See Profile :

said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

One big problem with this. Those users who are actually hosting Gateways and are not sonic.net DSL users are almost all(AT&T or Verizon ?) breaking their provider's TOS. You are not allowed to open your internet connection to those outside of your home. If this starts to actually grow in usage, look for the ISPs to start dropping the customers providing internet access.

Or have they made sure that only sonic.net dsl users can be gateways?
This is one of the big advantages of working with the ISP on the WiFi. We know the unit is out there, and on what IP, so if/when we see any bad behavior, we know if it's our customer or a WiFi user. This can be a HUGE deal when the US Secret Service or FBI show up.

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Good Lord, what about my Dual gateway 8 Node Meraki network I am running???

It covers a good 1/4 to 1/2 mile around my neighborhood.

...but wait, it's set up with WPA Encryption, and only my Laptop and my kids Sony PSP have the WPA key.

My own PERSONAL mini-muni WiFi project.

I don't see how that violates any ISP's TOS as long as I don't resell their service or offer it up for free.
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We're Gonna Need A Bigger Boat !!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19004295 Mon, 03 Sep 2007 17:39:15 EDT Re: Users hosting Gateway AP's breaking ISP TOS??? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19004081 DaneJasper :
said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

One big problem with this. Those users who are actually hosting Gateways and are not sonic.net DSL users are almost all(AT&T or Verizon ?) breaking their provider's TOS. You are not allowed to open your internet connection to those outside of your home. If this starts to actually grow in usage, look for the ISPs to start dropping the customers providing internet access.

Or have they made sure that only sonic.net dsl users can be gateways?
This is one of the big advantages of working with the ISP on the WiFi. We know the unit is out there, and on what IP, so if/when we see any bad behavior, we know if it's our customer or a WiFi user. This can be a HUGE deal when the US Secret Service or FBI show up.

-Dane]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19004081 Mon, 03 Sep 2007 17:01:30 EDT Users hosting Gateway AP's breaking ISP TOS??? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19003967 TKJunkMail : One big problem with this. Those users who are actually hosting Gateways and are not sonic.net DSL users are almost all(AT&T or Verizon ?) breaking their provider's TOS. You are not allowed to open your internet connection to those outside of your home. If this starts to actually grow in usage, look for the ISPs to start dropping the customers providing internet access.

Or have they made sure that only sonic.net dsl users can be gateways?
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