 Noah VailSon made my AvatarPremium
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| Where are the Ad Defenders Today? Here's the rub.
When ads no longer deliver malware,
when ads no longer use lies, exaggerations or lite porn to sell their product,
when ads are no longer deceitful or dishonest(as trying to appear as part of the content),
when ads are no longer undermine the content of a page by making it unreadable through popups, clutter, load lag or other inappropriate means,
THEN I will consider the arguments against ad blockers.
Got it Big Marketing? Clean up your industry and maybe I wouldn't have to defend myself from you.
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 MrMoodyFree range slavePremium
join:2002-09-03
Smithfield, NC | Yes, it seems the more annoying the ad is, the more likely it is some kind of ripoff. I shudder to think about the number of people who've fallen for the mortgage refinance ones - and are now in trouble as a result.
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 rick752Premium
join:2006-01-27
New York
1 edit | reply to Noah Vail
Noah ... that is my sentiment exactly. You did leave out one more important thing though .... when ads are not trying to track my every move!
rick752 .... EasyList, EasyElement, ABP Tracking Filter author 
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 sivranBack to Opera againPremium
join:2003-09-15
Arlington, TX
kudos:1 | Heck, I don't even really mind too much the tracking aspect. The way I look at it, it puts more money into the business model that keeps the web free for the most part. Is that such a bad thing? |
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rick752Premium
join:2006-01-27
New York
4 edits | I myself and many others find the privacy invasion part beyond the scope of acceptable behavior. Even Neisen doesn't sneak a bug on your TV without your knowledge or permission.
I find tracking the equivalent of you going to the store and buying something and then discovering a month later that the store had somehow attached a tracking device and a wiretap on you. The tracker is to see where you go ... and the wiretap to find out as much about you as they can ... like who you are and what you are buying. And things like webpage 'heatmaps' are like you going into a store and having someone follow you around writing down everything that you look at and pick up.
It is not quite as bad if this info is only used by the domain (or store) that I am actually visiting. But third-party cookies, web bugs, and any other tracking or marketing analysis scripts have no right to extract any info from me ... nor ANY right for ANYTHING to be 'placed on' or 'extracted from' my computer without my explicit permission. Because that, my friend, IS privacy invasion!
3rd-party advertising and web-analysis sites usually go hand-in-hand ... and neither have ANY right to know ANYTHING about me! If you go into a store, do ALL the suppliers of that store's products' have the right put a tracking device and a wiretap on you without your permission? There is a lot deeper problem with this than it looks on the surface considering a third-party cookie can be loaded on your computer simply by just viewing one "1x1.gif" image served from another domain (in case no one knew that). That is why these types on things are blocked in my ABP Tracking Filter subscription.
The biggest problem is that the whole web-advertising business needs to change its business model. You can only keep forcing more and more junk in users faces before "enough" finally DOES become 'enough".
Some "food for thought":
If you sincerely believe that there is nothing wrong with 3rd-party stats and tracking sites and that people need to make money on the web .... then why do you think most of these services are offered to you for FREE?
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