ztmike
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join:2001-08-02
Michigan City, IN
 ·Comcast
| Comcrap
Of course Comcast could win in a court battle..They have a team of lawyers on their side 24/7 that are some of the highest paid in the country. Some regular old Joe is NOT going to win against that.
I'm just glad this "Limiting bitorrent" hasn't hit me yet in NW Indiana. Comcast is probably testing this and then implenting it into their network nation-wide if it works..
I got to ask ..WHEN IS COMCAST GOING TO UP THEIR SPEEDS? arghh |
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swhx7
Premium
join:2006-07-23
Elbonia
·RoadRunner Cable
1 edit | I agree they would win in court, but I think it is "defauding the customers" in some sense. If Comcast deliberately forges a packet, and the customer relies on that packet to be genuine, and suffers disadvantage because it's not, there are the legal elements are deception, intent to deceive, reliance, and harm. It's on such a micro-scale that it would never be placed under the same legal rule as selling bogus merchandise, but in principle it is odious.
To the editorialist above: Is it OK for an individual to go into a situation for some other purpose - say, into a business to install a router - and start falsifying traffic? Maybe it benefits some third party; does that make it OK? If not, then why is it OK for a corporation to do the same?
The larger issue is that if it comes to be considered acceptable for ISPs to falsify customers' internet traffic on a small scale, it opens the door to legalized DNS poisoning, stealth censorship of news reports, and other abuses.
Edited to clarify. |
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CableConvert
Premium
join:2003-12-05
Atlanta, GA
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Except...the author is saying that States could go after Comcast...aka New Yorks AG.
They send a packet that tells you its from the remote host you are trying to connect with that says "no thanks...please terminate" if thats not fraud...what is? They can drop the packet...thats fine...but I think fraud is over the line IMHO |
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15063053
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join:2007-07-22
1 edit | reply to ztmike
said by ztmike  :I got to ask ..WHEN IS COMCAST GOING TO UP THEIR SPEEDS? arghh Aren't you happy with your Powerboost? I'll take my steady FiOS 15/2 Mbps anyday over Comcrap service.
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LeftOfSanity
join:2005-11-06
Felton, DE
| said by 15063053 :said by ztmike :I got to ask ..WHEN IS COMCAST GOING TO UP THEIR SPEEDS? arghh Aren't you happy with your Powerboost? I'll take my steady FiOS 15/2 Mbps anyday over Comcrap service. Yea because Verizon is 100% legit and for the customer. In case you didn't know, FioS is not available to everyone.
"Comcrap" - What an original play on words. Wish I thought of that.  |
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Obliteration
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join:2005-09-18
Somewhere
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said by ztmike :Of course Comcast could win in a court battle..They have a team of lawyers on their side 24/7 that are some of the highest paid in the country. Some regular old Joe is NOT going to win against that. I'm just glad this "Limiting bitorrent" hasn't hit me yet in NW Indiana. Comcast is probably testing this and then implenting it into their network nation-wide if it works.. I got to ask ..WHEN IS COMCAST GOING TO UP THEIR SPEEDS? arghh They can't supply the current speeds as it is. Why do you think they are throttling?
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S_engineer
join:2007-05-16
Chicago, IL
·Comcast
| reply to LeftOfSanity
some of us don't have much of a choice when it comes to broadband...Cumcrap knows this and they arrogantly fee us to death for Sh*tty service while telling us just how Comcraptic it is....
once I get a decent choice, I'm gone!
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HardwareGeek
join:2003-11-15
Brooklyn, NY
| reply to ztmike
You guys quote a NY law, but NY law also has something called Clean Hands law.
Which basically means you can't sue someone if you your self are doing something that can be considered illegal.
So you can't sue Comcast for preventing you from downloading some Movie you don't own. No lawyer in their right mind would take your case. |
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swhx7
Premium
join:2006-07-23
Elbonia
·RoadRunner Cable
1 edit | said by HardwareGeek :Which basically means you can't sue someone if you your self are doing something that can be considered illegal.
So Comcast couldn't sue customers for sending forged packets, then? I suppose it's prohibited by their terms of service, which would be rather hypocritical.
Also, Comcast doesn't discriminate, they sabotage all BT. A plaintiff would be someone seeding a Linux ISO or some such. |
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kitsune361
join:2007-08-12
Corpus Christi, TX | reply to HardwareGeek
There are lots of legitimate uses for bittorrent, in fact it has been incorporated into several patching systems like for Blizzard's World of Warcraft. Can anyone out there in the area affected still patch thier WoW client? |
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Jmartz
join:2000-07-20
Tenafly, NJ
1 edit | reply to ztmike
Cablevision just uncapped their BOOST customers' modems... certainly Comcast, which has speeds that don't even approach Optimum Onlines could handle bit torrent traffic... either that, or they need to invest money in splitting nodes so more bandwidth is available per homes pass to the customer.
Granted, it's the middle of the night, but I was getting what I would consider pretty good speeds earlier this afternoon as well... Comcast should step back and fix their network instead of just putting limits on what customers can and can not do. |
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comcastuser2734
@comcast.net
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said by LeftOfSanity :said by 15063053 :said by ztmike :I got to ask ..WHEN IS COMCAST GOING TO UP THEIR SPEEDS? arghh Aren't you happy with your Powerboost? I'll take my steady FiOS 15/2 Mbps anyday over Comcrap service. Yea because Verizon is 100% legit and for the customer. In case you didn't know, FioS is not available to everyone. "Comcrap" - What an original play on words. Wish I thought of that. You must work for the company or have other interest. There is no perfect company, to me it is just trading one evil corporation for another. In the end every company is out to make money and there is no way to make EVERYONE happy all of the time.
I am happy with my connection and I do not have diluted perceptions about what I am paying for. The price is exactly the same as it is nationally. I also beleive that the price I pay is fully justified, considering it is the same price I paid 4 years ago, and I was getting less than half of the speed at 3 mb. I am now signed up for 8 mb and getting the following from my speed tests.
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NormanS
Premium,MVM
join:2001-02-14
San Jose, CA
 ·Pacific Bell - SBC
| reply to ztmike
said by ztmike :Of course Comcast could win in a court battle..They have a team of lawyers on their side 24/7 that are some of the highest paid in the country. Some regular old Joe is NOT going to win against that. New York Attorney General Andrew M. Cuomo isn't a "regular old Joe". I doubt that Comcat's pockets are as deep as the pockets of the State of New York.
The question is, what would it take to get AG Cuomo interested?
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matrix3D
join:2006-09-27
Deep River, CT
| reply to swhx7
Unfortunately, in this country of ours ("The best in the world!") it is never justice or reason that wins in our courts -- it's who can spend the most money and drag it out the longest. How much longer do we have to let the rich get away with whatever they want before U.S. citizens will start the next revolution? |
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lesopp
join:2001-06-27
Land O Lakes, FL
| reply to swhx7
I think there is an angle worth investigating.
Remember the FCC decision to label cable modem service as an information service instead of a telecom service in effect removing regulatory requirements.
I could be wrong but a big difference between the two is that bits change in a telecom service and they do not change in an information service. I could have this completely reversed but if not then comcast is operating a telecom service and should have to experience the full impact of each appropriate regulator entity. |
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JasonD
@charter.com | reply to comcastuser2734
Charter is no better. I work for Charter. They are unorganized, cheating liars. And the subcontracting company I work for is no better. I'm sure Comcast is the same. These companies don't give two shits about their customers. |
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Kzbd
join:2006-10-01
Roselle, IL | reply to matrix3D
YEAH REVOLUTION! Wait, you want to storm Comcast? |
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