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Combat Chuck
Too Many Cannibals
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join:2001-11-29
Erie, PA

Go ahead people.

Keep pushing the issue with silly lawyer games, just don't bitch when you get your way and they start totally blocking BT.
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CableConvert
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join:2003-12-05
Atlanta, GA

Re: Go ahead people.

blocking is easier to circumvent

Combat Chuck
Too Many Cannibals
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join:2001-11-29
Erie, PA

Re: Go ahead people.

said by CableConvert:

blocking is easier to circumvent
Wanna bet on that? If they can watch a particular connection, determine that it's bt, and then go to the trouble of forging a packet, you don't think they can just skip the forging part and flat out drop the packets.
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funchords
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join:2001-03-11
Yarmouth Port, MA
kudos:5

Re: Go ahead people.

said by Combat Chuck:

they can just skip the forging part and flat out drop the packets.
Then they'd still have to deal with retransmissions, exacerbating the bandwidth problem that they're trying to tame.

Combat Chuck
Too Many Cannibals
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join:2001-11-29
Erie, PA

Re: Go ahead people.

said by funchords:

Then they'd still have to deal with retransmissions, exacerbating the bandwidth problem that they're trying to tame.
Sorry but a couple retransmissions aren't going to make up a significant amount of bandwidth compared to what a properly running BT client is going to cause. Not to mention the number of people who will close the client after it sits for a couple hours pulling nothing.
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LeftOfSanity
People Suck.

join:2005-11-06
Felton, DE
said by Combat Chuck:

said by CableConvert:

blocking is easier to circumvent
Wanna bet on that? If they can watch a particular connection, determine that it's bt, and then go to the trouble of forging a packet, you don't think they can just skip the forging part and flat out drop the packets.
Agreed. I'd like to see most of these people run a network of Comcast's size. Its all good to say "just increase the bandwidth" but lets remember it is a business. Its not a not-for-profit organization. Just like all business there is red tape, and that can delay things.
And really, I know alot of people who use bittorrent and if i asked them what percentage do they use it for,,,yea they are going to say they use it for some legal stuff, but they use it mainly for TV shows,movies,games etc. Not to discredit anyone..and maybe there is people who use it strictly for *nix distro's, but c'mon, your really gonna say the majority of its use is legal?

Personally its too slow for me. I actually pony up the dough and use newsgroups. For legal stuff of course

Combat Chuck
Too Many Cannibals
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join:2001-11-29
Erie, PA

Re: Go ahead people.

Don't lump me in with those who are happy about this. I'm not happy but it's not my network. As has been stated the legality of what is being downloaded is a totally separate issue, unless your willing to start banning web browsers since 99% of illegal internet activity starts there.
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Dan8888

join:2007-08-21
Wilmington, DE
If this were to happen, a few other things would happen.

1.) Net Neutrality would receive a huge boost of support
2.) Music downloads, regardless of them being illegal, would be very unhappy, a good number would probably switch
3.)World of Warcraft, which is played by millions, uses P2P for updating, many people would be unhappy that they now have problems playing, and Comcast would lose more customers.

Combat Chuck
Too Many Cannibals
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join:2001-11-29
Erie, PA

Re: Go ahead people.

said by Dan8888:

1.) Net Neutrality would receive a huge boost of support
No it wouldn't for the same reason you have people posting here that BT is mainly used to commit crimes. Not that the general public has any clue what BT is.

said by Dan8888:

2.) Music downloads, regardless of them being illegal, would be very unhappy, a good number would probably switch
Again, no they wouldn't as they are completely unaffected.

said by Dan8888:

3.)World of Warcraft, which is played by millions, uses P2P for updating, many people would be unhappy that they now have problems playing, and Comcast would lose more customers.
WOW falls back to a standard download and uses pre-loading while you play to download the bulk of future patches; even people who would be affected would likely will not notice.

People can play wannabe lawyer/politician all they want but the bottom line is they don't have a leg to stand on. The general public has no clue what BT is, nor do they care. Someone is going to push the issue, some lawyer will walk off with a mint, we'll all walk away with a straight block and a $5 credit to our bills and the outrage will exist only within the walls of this and similar sites.
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