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TKJunkMail
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 No proof AT&T only picks rich neighborhoods

AT&T picks the most profitable neighborhoods for deployment
Nice statement. But there is no proof offered or available that this is the case. And constant repetition doesn't make it true.
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Cod

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Even if it is/was true, god forbid a company trying to obtain a ROI for initial buildouts... I don't see any laws being broken. Its called business.


pnh102
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reply to TKJunkMail
said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

Nice statement. But there is no proof offered or available that this is the case. And constant repetition doesn't make it true.
I think it is a mistake to try to refute this claim. Refuting it makes it sound like cherry-picking is a bad thing, which it isn't.

Companies don't have to apologize for avoiding activities which are eventual money pits.
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Cabal
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Shame on them for not picking the unprofitable neighborhoods for deployment!


BF69

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reply to TKJunkMail
said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

AT&T picks the most profitable neighborhoods for deployment
Nice statement. But there is no proof offered or available that this is the case. And constant repetition doesn't make it true.
Ok saying "AT&T picks the most profitable neighborhoods for deployment." Doesn't mean they are deploying in the RICHEST neighborhoods.

Take 2 areas, one has millionaires and has 200 residences, the other is a middle class area same size but has 3000. Which area is going to be "most profitable" for at&t? It's not the "rich" area.


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if cherry picking was a GOOD thing, everyone outside of dense cities would have no phone service. so maybe you should qualify your statements...unless you are one of those "country folk should move to da city if 'n deys wants telephony!"


pnh102
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said by morbo See Profile :

unless you are one of those "country folk should move to da city if 'n deys wants telephony!"
I am one of those people.
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morbo
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you are ridiculous.


Richard B
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“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it."

Joseph Goebbels
How many times we heard about cherry picking.


en102
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reply to TKJunkMail
I agree... the Santa Clarita (Newhall) mobile home park had Uverse before they even started working on the site for Uverse in my area.
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bogey780

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People mistake the issues. ATT determines the relative cost to install the service in a location. Then they guess the estimated numbers of customers. Now this may suprise people but the number of customers you get in most neighborhoods isn't altogether that different. "Rich" neighborhoods just tend to be newer houses and have newer easier to upgrade lines or had new plant set to facilitate the demand for luxury regulated items like ISDN, T1, and multiple phone lines.


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This area is getting it

Might As well KEEP TWC HSI/VOICE it DIRT cheap 79$

i get

10/1
and 6/512 too
Volce Over cable

supertech315

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said by pnh102 See Profile :

said by morbo See Profile :

unless you are one of those "country folk should move to da city if 'n deys wants telephony!"
I am one of those people.
LOL


KrK
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Catch is, it has to be a lie.


BF69

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said by bogey780 See Profile :

People mistake the issues. ATT determines the relative cost to install the service in a location. Then they guess the estimated numbers of customers. Now this may suprise people but the number of customers you get in most neighborhoods isn't altogether that different. "Rich" neighborhoods just tend to be newer houses and have newer easier to upgrade lines or had new plant set to facilitate the demand for luxury regulated items like ISDN, T1, and multiple phone lines.
These same new neighborhoods tend to have larger properties thus there are LESS potential customers. Just because someone is a millonaire doesn't mean they are going to drop what they have now for at&t. In fact it's much more likely that a "poorer" neighborhood would since they would be more apt to want to save every penny they can. And of course "poorer" neighrborhoods have smaller properties so ther are more residences per square mile, acre or however you want to measure it.


en102
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I agree... a there's 2 VRADs attached to my HOA (420 homes).
There's 1 VRAD in Newhall mobile home park, and covers the adjacent homes as well. The density is at least ~ 2:1 for mobile homes vs. houses here.

This is one of the reasons Verizon likes the highly populated eastern corridor (NYC/MA/CT/VA/DE, etc.) vs. the lower density states that AT&T has IL, MI, TX, CA, NV, IN, OH, TN, KY, etc.)
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Tigerpaw509
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reply to TKJunkMail
Agreed,I work for ATT and you should see some of the aera's getting wired.As matter of fact I bet one in three homes actually has a auto that works

bogey780

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reply to BF69
All calculated into the formula they use to "cherry pick".
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