Is anyone besides me... in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r19015170 en Fri, 27 Nov 2009 14:29:13 EDT Fri, 27 Nov 2009 14:29:13 EDT Re: Is anyone besides me... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19021059 FAQFixer :
said by Rick See Profile :

It seems to me that telco is missing out on a HUGE opportunity to REALLY do something to stem the loss of revenues from their mind blowing loss of landlines.
Instead of trying to force them down peoples throats anymore..they should let their lower tier DSL serve as the replacement for those revenues.
Wow, thank God you're not in charge. Do you honestly think that the operational costs and profits of providing any level of DSL is comparable to POTS?

said by Rick See Profile :

Listen up Telco's.
768k unbundled..no landline..totally naked..15 to 20 a month
1500k to 3,000k..24.95.

Forget the games. The shenanigans...you'll have a really big winner on your hands..
Great business model...you can't make a profit but you can make it up in volume!!!!! Classic.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19021059 Thu, 06 Sep 2007 09:55:37 EDT Re: Is anyone besides me... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19018418 ace1974 :
said by Rick See Profile :

eyes glazing over trying to decipher this endless price games crap being thrown out..primarily by the telco industry? (although I don't totally absolve the cable co's either).

Why..can't someone just say..I want 1500k dsl..no landlines..no nothing..and get it for a reasonable price?

Or..768k.
Or..3,000k.
Or..whatever.

It seems to me that telco is missing out on a HUGE opportunity to REALLY do something to stem the loss of revenues from their mind blowing loss of landlines.
Instead of trying to force them down peoples throats anymore..they should let their lower tier DSL serve as the replacement for those revenues.

Telco OWNS the lower speed HSI market..and simply doesn't further capitalize on it by simply saying if you want 1500k dsl for 20.00 a month..Here..you can have it.
That is a TOTAL replacement for those lost landline revenues...and you get to keep the customers.

People who might otherwise sign up for that many times go to cable Hsi because there is one thing they CAN do..and that is to add.
And, when you add the landline that they don't want..PLUS the lower cost dsl..you just might as well pay 42.95 a month to comcast to get the kinds of speeds we get.

While I guess there is some give on telco's part in certain areas, just way too much of this is way too secretive, and depends on who you call and at what time.
Honestly, I read through these telco forums here at BBR and wonder how some people have the time to do all the negotiating they need to with these companies to get a deal.
And, Lord help them when the specials end.
It's off to the races for Ma Bell.

Listen up Telco's.
768k unbundled..no landline..totally naked..15 to 20 a month
1500k to 3,000k..24.95.

Forget the games. The shenanigans...you'll have a really big winner on your hands..

and will make up for all your lost landline customers fleeing you like passengers off the decks of the titanic.
AT&T is now the largest telecom company in the world, with $120 billion in revenues and more than 100 million customers

last i checked Comcrap only has 24 million customers,,now ask yourself who's owning who?? Comcast is walking in AT&T's shadow and always will]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19018418 Wed, 05 Sep 2007 20:47:26 EDT Re: Is anyone besides me... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19015521 bennor :
said by Rick See Profile :

Instead of trying to force them down peoples throats anymore..they should let their lower tier DSL serve as the replacement for those revenues.
AT&T is doing what their doing because they think their a telephone company, telephone service first, DSL service second. Right now even when they do offer "naked" DSL they charge almost as much as if you have POTS service + DSL.

Rick, your question is a good one but think about it. They get to milk money from BOTH the telephone service AND the DSL service verses from just the DSL service. From a business stand point it makes sense. When I renewed my service with the SNET->SBC->AT&T monster back in August, I asked several CS reps about "naked" DSL (or DSL without the phone service), not one of them knew what I was talking about. One even asked my WHY I would want just DSL without phone service. That is how they think. Phone first, DSL second.

I am NOT a telco shill, I hate AT&T with a passion. I even dumped their long distance service when I got DSL service with SBC, Then SBC goes and changes their name to AT&T when they bought them out. :mad:]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19015521 Wed, 05 Sep 2007 13:45:56 EDT Re: Is anyone besides me... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19015499 djweis : $20 per month is not a replacement for all the landline revenue. There is still the FCC subscriber line charge, the other surcharges, and the reciprocal comp for whenever someone calls the customer on that landline. In most telcos the reciprocal comp brings in more $$ than the dialtone.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19015499 Wed, 05 Sep 2007 13:43:15 EDT Is anyone besides me... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19015170 Rick : eyes glazing over trying to decipher this endless price games crap being thrown out..primarily by the telco industry? (although I don't totally absolve the cable co's either).

Why..can't someone just say..I want 1500k dsl..no landlines..no nothing..and get it for a reasonable price?

Or..768k.
Or..3,000k.
Or..whatever.

It seems to me that telco is missing out on a HUGE opportunity to REALLY do something to stem the loss of revenues from their mind blowing loss of landlines.
Instead of trying to force them down peoples throats anymore..they should let their lower tier DSL serve as the replacement for those revenues.

Telco OWNS the lower speed HSI market..and simply doesn't further capitalize on it by simply saying if you want 1500k dsl for 20.00 a month..Here..you can have it.
That is a TOTAL replacement for those lost landline revenues...and you get to keep the customers.

People who might otherwise sign up for that many times go to cable Hsi because there is one thing they CAN do..and that is to add.
And, when you add the landline that they don't want..PLUS the lower cost dsl..you just might as well pay 42.95 a month to comcast to get the kinds of speeds we get.

While I guess there is some give on telco's part in certain areas, just way too much of this is way too secretive, and depends on who you call and at what time.
Honestly, I read through these telco forums here at BBR and wonder how some people have the time to do all the negotiating they need to with these companies to get a deal.
And, Lord help them when the specials end.
It's off to the races for Ma Bell.

Listen up Telco's.
768k unbundled..no landline..totally naked..15 to 20 a month
1500k to 3,000k..24.95.

Forget the games. The shenanigans...you'll have a really big winner on your hands..

and will make up for all your lost landline customers fleeing you like passengers off the decks of the titanic.
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