achuchma
join:2001-04-11
Tampa, FL
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Re: untrained installers?
Well, IMHO, Romex is junk too...I have been privy to too many "accidents" that happen because something cuts or pierces the wire.
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said by yabos  :No doubt you've never worked in construction. There's no way you can know where all the wires are in the wall especially low voltage wires. Yes you know they are near an outlet or switch but they can cross the wall anywhere and you don't know. My thoughs exactly |
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said by Subaru :said by achuchma :said by yabos :No doubt you've never worked in construction. There's no way you can know where all the wires are in the wall especially low voltage wires. Yes you know they are near an outlet or switch but they can cross the wall anywhere and you don't know. Especially since romex seems to be more and more popular with housing construction. I can can not believe it is acceptable under electrical codes. Yep or installers who dont always follow 100% of the code and take short cuts.. I've seen it happen. Even when the VZ tech follows all the rules, who is to say that the person that installed the wiring that was damaged, did??
What is really needed is x-ray vision glasses - or tearing open the wall - so that these problems can be avoided. It'll never happen. These accidents happen to CATV installers, alarm techs, plumbers, electricians, etc., in short, to anyone that works in your home with cutting tools on a DAILY basis, professionals included.
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cableties
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said by TScheisskopf :Romex? I don't know about around you, but last I heard, it was banned as unsafe in NJ. Um no. Banned was "aluminum" wire. Romex is a brand name.
Here is more info on "Romex" wire and others...
»www.faqs.org/faqs/electrical-wir···n-5.html |
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TScheisskopf
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Belvidere, NJ
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Romex? I don't know about around you, but last I heard, it was banned as unsafe in NJ. |
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yabos
join:2003-02-16
Ingersoll, ON
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All the electrical wires going through wood studs I've seen here in Ontario are not BX. The only BX I've seen is in steel studded walls.
You should at least check what's on the other side of where you're drilling if you can. The article says he hit a wire which maybe he could have seen but usually you can't see any except in the basement if it's unfinished. |
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yabos
join:2003-02-16
Ingersoll, ON | reply to builderbob
Yes I've tried one of those stud finders before and it doesn't work very well at all. It's possible they could have much better ones but the $50 one I've tried is pretty much worthless. |
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builderbob
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there is a way, use a stud finder that has AC locate. all employees here have one and know how to use it. it would be reckless to cut a hole without doing a survey and checking above ceiling and/or basement stud space for wires and/or pipes. |
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True, but some of these reports are of the installer drilling into the service panel or the service drop, not a branch circuit. That is the troubling part!
I can't wait for fiber to come to my area. Hopefully one of these Highly Qualified installers will come, and burn down my house. New House on Verizon's dime!
Yippee!!!!
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said by achuchma :said by yabos :No doubt you've never worked in construction. There's no way you can know where all the wires are in the wall especially low voltage wires. Yes you know they are near an outlet or switch but they can cross the wall anywhere and you don't know. Especially since romex seems to be more and more popular with housing construction. I can can not believe it is acceptable under electrical codes. Yep or installers who dont always follow 100% of the code and take short cuts.. I've seen it happen.
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achuchma
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said by yabos :No doubt you've never worked in construction. There's no way you can know where all the wires are in the wall especially low voltage wires. Yes you know they are near an outlet or switch but they can cross the wall anywhere and you don't know. Especially since romex seems to be more and more popular with housing construction.
I can can not believe it is acceptable under electrical codes.
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yabos
join:2003-02-16
Ingersoll, ON | reply to pokesph
No doubt you've never worked in construction. There's no way you can know where all the wires are in the wall especially low voltage wires. Yes you know they are near an outlet or switch but they can cross the wall anywhere and you don't know. |
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