http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r19027300 en Wed, 11 Nov 2009 07:30:21 EDT Wed, 11 Nov 2009 07:30:21 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19027300 pog : Maybe they could come up with some neat examples of PHP using the same criteria to generate the JavaScript for the client as well as (re)validate on the server?

IOW, /form.php requested without variables returns the form. The submit is back to /form.php but the presence of post/get variables triggers the validation?

I dunno but it should allow you to look kill both birds with the one stone.

Anyway, LiveValidation doesn't seem to address fields that get overlooked... for eg, the first example requires that text be entered. Nothing stood out to alert me until I typed and then erased. Surely, skipping fields is as big a problem as actual bad data entry?
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You can't escape having to validate all fields all over again in PHP or Ruby or Perl or whatever, and then when you DO find a problem do you just reject the form silently, or do you re-display the form with neat error messages? which kind of makes the whole as-you-type validation redundant.

I suppose javascript on the server side is inevitable. If a web server integrated client and server side javascript into one seamless package you'd only be maintaining one set of code - the form could be validated twice by the same code.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19022267 Thu, 06 Sep 2007 13:28:40 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19021894 yock : Couldn't you disable posting until the client-side validation is satisfied? I know this violates the "fail gracefully" principle of web design, but relying on client-side validation already does that anyway.
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