pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
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join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD
 ·Comcast
|  Surprised?
People who are dumb enough to pay $600 for a piece of inferior technology (multiple times over in this case) are also dumb enough to understand the terms of service to which they agreed when they bought such a device.
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ace1974
join:2007-06-09
Goldsboro, NC
| said by pnh102  :People who are dumb enough to pay $600 for a piece of inferior technology (multiple times over in this case) are also dumb enough to understand the terms of service to which they agreed when they bought such a device. You got that right,,I just cant understand why anyone would pay that kind of money for such a device. It's clearly a ripoff in my opinion |
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | They should be glad that they weren't using a 3G connection... they'd probably suck up a lot more data.
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inteller
Sociopaths always win.
join:2003-12-08
Tulsa, OK | reply to pnh102
no actually they aren't. They just blindly buy with their ill gotten dollars and then bitch and whine when the price drops or the bill isn't what they expected.
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Warez_Zealot
Rural land of the rising sun
join:2006-04-19
japan
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said by pnh102 :People who are dumb enough to pay $600 for a piece of inferior technology (multiple times over in this case) are also dumb enough to understand the terms of service to which they agreed when they bought such a device. I see your point about the stupid suckers who waited in line to buy an iPhone, but those charges are ridiculous. Have you ever read a TOS? It's like 20 pages of useless crap to hide the 2 paragraphs of the important stuff (i.e the international roaming info).. I'm sure all that $5 - $20 per MB was buried in the fine print.. Something tells me it wasn't advertised in the pamphlet or in the bullet points.
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fiberguy
My views are my own.
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join:2005-05-20
| 20 pages or not.. read read read! The length of the contract is not only no excuse to not held accountable, to the dolts that use their service, it should serve as a warning to stay away.
Much of what needs to be said can be said in about the average 16 section/paragraph TOS agreement. Much of it is standard, acceptable use, billing, and general terms should always be paid close attention to.
But, as for the topic at hand.. the person holding the phone should have either took out a home equity loan (which I'm assuming this iPhone user doesn't own one) or grab that credit card and pay their bill. If they have the money to travel international, they should have the money to pay their bill. And, it doesn't matter what handset you use, it was the actions of the user that rang up that bill.
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pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
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join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD
·Comcast
| reply to Warez_Zealot
said by Warez_Zealot :Have you ever read a TOS? Actually, yes, I have. I read everything I sign at least 5 times before I sign it. If I remember correctly, the last landlord I rented from hated my guts because I took the time to actually read the lease. 
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Gogo1
join:2004-05-27
Brooklyn, NY | reply to Warez_Zealot
Wow. 20 page TOS or not, and whether they bothered to read it or not, youd think these people would find out the costs of using the phone overseas before they went on holiday. How do people this foolish even make enough money to buy an iPhone? |
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Ahrenl
join:2004-10-26
North Andover, MA | reply to fiberguy
After AT&T cancelled that other guy's bill? Are you nuts? Definitely fight it, then you won't have to pay! Woohoo! |
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fiberguy
My views are my own.
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join:2005-05-20
| To be honest, what shocks me most is that AT&T didn't have some kind of credit management system in place to thwart off this kind of bill in the first place.
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"Complaining is the least path of resistance for the self-serving, the lazy, and I’m told it’s a woman’s prerogative..." |
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Windogg
join:2002-07-24
Cambridge, MA
1 edit | reply to Warez_Zealot
Those are the same people that complain about being "forced" into a no income verification, no money down, 40 year, adjustable rate mortgage for beachfront property in North Dakota. When I signed for my mortgage, I read every word despite knowing I had a 15 year fixed.
While I do feel a little bad but I feel no sympathy. I like my unlocked Windows Mobile device which I paid $100. When I travel internationally, I just pop in a prepaid SIM and pay cheap, local rates for voice and data.
People need to take personal responsibility and be an informed buyer. Too many idiots out there letting others think for them and then cry when they get ripped off. |
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dlr_graph
join:2002-02-03
Elizabeth, NJ
| reply to Warez_Zealot
That is the purpose of contracts, to get you confused with garbage you don't need. Paying so much money for that phone tells me that they have no common sense. I don't read the TOS but do ask what is covered when I travel. One thing I still don't understand is why would someone spend money in a test message (e-mail in this case) instead of just waiting or making a ohone call? If this people went on a cruise and had time to e-mail "friens" probably means that the trip was boring and were ripped-off anyway. They should be responsible for all the charges. |
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S_engineer
join:2007-05-16
Chicago, IL
·Comcast
| reply to en102
don't worry, they'll probably get a gov't bailout just like all of these "less than stellar" homeowners that are barking because they actually have an Adjustment in that Adjustable rate mortgage!
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user3657
join:2000-04-27
Trenton, NJ
| reply to Warez_Zealot
said by Warez_Zealot :said by pnh102 :People who are dumb enough to pay $600 for a piece of inferior technology (multiple times over in this case) are also dumb enough to understand the terms of service to which they agreed when they bought such a device. I see your point about the stupid suckers who waited in line to buy an iPhone, but those charges are ridiculous. Have you ever read a TOS? It's like 20 pages of useless crap to hide the 2 paragraphs of the important stuff (i.e the international roaming info).. I'm sure all that $5 - $20 per MB was buried in the fine print.. Something tells me it wasn't advertised in the pamphlet or in the bullet points. i dunno about you, but when looking at tos for something, i can useally find what im looking for in under 5mins. they dont randomly put things anywhere. |
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GawdHelpMe
join:2007-09-11
Welland, ON
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doesn't matter. people are STUPID. they assume they can just use a cell phone ANYWHERE they go, and its all-inclusive. i used to do customer care for a large US provider. you wouldn't believe how ignorant people are, and a lot of the important information isn't buried in the contract, its presented to them, in a simple, comprehensive, three color summary page, they just don't READ anything. basically, all wireless provider contracts state that they don't guarantee ANYTHING. |
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Townsend Harris
@verizon.net
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Re: Surprised?
Agreed. Everyone knows it's all about hardware and the price of hardware. Everyone knows it's *never* about design and ease-of-use for us do-it-yourselfers.
Why, just last year I took five weeks off from my job, learned helium-arc welding, and rebuilt that iron balcony railing on my back terrace. I taught a good lesson to that darn welder who wanted to charge me $717 to do the same job that I just did for free, free I tell you!
Sheesh, these crazy iPhone users who pay for stuff that's worthless to rugged guys like me. Don't they know the real value of anything? |
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dnoyeB
Ferrous Phallus
join:2000-10-09
Southfield, MI
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No matter where I am they always look stupid when I lean back, cross my legs, and start reading the contract line by line. They always want to assure me its nothing special. "Oh that page just says you get xyz..."
They really get impatient. And of course I tell them to shorten the contract. They don't mind you signing 15-20 places per sheet, but they get annoyed if you want to take your time and read it. Not to mention the person asking you to sign never has any clue WTH the contract really says and if you ask a question they must call someone else...
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dnoyeB
"Then said I, Wisdom [is] better than strength: nevertheless the poor man's wisdom [is] despised, and his words are not heard. " Ecclesiastes 9:16
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