knightmb
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Re: waiting for the other shoe to fall...
said by satellite68  :waiting for it... the usual cries of "they built it, they should (fill in the blank) or whatever carte blance reasons given for the free marketeers positions... Let's see how long it takes someone to build a competing network. Say, a hundred years? I don't want thousands of wires hung everywhere for competing service. At the same time, given how much the public has put into this with $$$, it should open to anyone willing to provide and compete the service. It's bad enough that we have to string cable and phone line everywhere. I remember reading back in the 20th century of how fiber was going to help change that. Bury fiber everywhere, make it public so that any company that has the equipment and financial backing to support a service can use it to provide a service and let the free market keep prices low with competition. |
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supergirl
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| said by knightmb :said by satellite68 :waiting for it... the usual cries of "they built it, they should (fill in the blank) or whatever carte blance reasons given for the free marketeers positions... Let's see how long it takes someone to build a competing network. Say, a hundred years? I don't want thousands of wires hung everywhere for competing service. At the same time, given how much the public has put into this with $$$, it should open to anyone willing to provide and compete the service. It's bad enough that we have to string cable and phone line everywhere. I remember reading back in the 20th century of how fiber was going to help change that. Bury fiber everywhere, make it public so that any company that has the equipment and financial backing to support a service can use it to provide a service and let the free market keep prices low with competition. Personally, I think with 45-50 million people without health care in America and an other 40-50 million with marginal health care the Congress has better things to do then build a nationwide fiber network.
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Sammer
join:2005-12-22
Canonsburg, PA
| said by supergirl :Personally, I think with 45-50 million people without health care in America and an other 40-50 million with marginal health care the Congress has better things to do then build a nationwide fiber network. Maybe a nationwide fiber network would lead to enough economic growth to help pay for the health care of those 100 million people. |
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Skippy25
join:2000-09-13
Hazelwood, MO
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Well I don't think health care is any more of a right than fiber and I personally would like to see them build a nationwide fiber network that would be purchased by the people consuming it before they provide blanket healthcare coverage that will simply be consumed by those that for the most part do nothing to deserve it. |
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morbo
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| said by Skippy25 :Well I don't think health care is any more of a right than fiber and I personally would like to see them build a nationwide fiber network that would be purchased by the people consuming it before they provide blanket healthcare coverage that will simply be consumed by those that for the most part do nothing to deserve it. what the hell? what must people do to "deserve" healthcare?
do you not realize that those people without healthcare now still get free healthcare subsidized by taxes and your healthcare costs? plus, the added expense of non-preventative care means it costs more to fix than it would if proper care was taken to begin with.
basically, your statement is really stupid. sorry, no way to sugar coat it. |
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elvey
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fiberguy
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| reply to Sammer
Maybe prayer will heal the sick and ill too and some of the science like gene therapy is just evil.. how well is that working for us?
I'd rather have a definite over a maybe when it comes to people having access to health care.
Economics are not going to suddenly grow, or be lead to growth, by installing a nationwide fiber network.. sorry, that only happens on techie dream blogs and in fantasy.
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fiberguy
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Dream on!
Fiber, Skippy, is NEVER going to be a "RIGHT".. Health care, my confused friend, IS a right in this country... it's just POORLY handled right now..
There are just certain things that are only big enough for the government to handle.. health care is one of them. Much of our research, in case people forget, comes from government institutions where the technology is then passed or sold to private companies for advancement (and often killed because the technology would kill their existing profits)
.. none the less, I am embarrassed for you that you'd even make such an idiotic statement that you did.
If and when you get some sort of illness that weakens you to the point you can't work, thus pay your health coverage plan costs, tell us just how well you are doing.. and then tell us again why exactly you don't deserve it.. alright..?
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Skippy25
join:2000-09-13
Hazelwood, MO
| So you don't agree with me, but dont come here calling me an idiot because my opinion differs from yours clown.
For every positive you can provide for having universal healthcare I can give you a negative effect on society to the same magnitude. Just as for every other handout that occurs in this country. A vast majority of all problems in every nation is the direct result of "crutching" the nation and it's people from a social and economical standpoint. The laws of nature will prevail. We may be able to slow it down or distort it, but they will prevail. And the greatest law of nature is the process of natural selection whether you like it or not or want to accept it or not. |
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fiberguy
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| For EVERY thing in life that is positive I can give you a negative. Want to know what gives you most of the positives and negatives? The people do directly. I won't go into the lengthly reasons why because it would take an entire disk array here.
However, I take personal exception to anyone that takes the high and mighty route.
Let me pose it to you this way. Do you, I, or any one person or group of people have the ability to perform medical research to the level required in order to sustain their own life? No. At this time, only the government will grant those groups or entities the right or permission to enter into such research.
Health care IS a right in this nation. We don't create the illnesses and other things that affect our lives. Besides all of that, it is one of our basic civil rights that we ALL have in this country; health care.
Please don't confuse natural selection with this topic. We have the ability to cure many different types of illness. We have the ability to make people better after an accident.. When you approach on natural selection, I've got news for you, that's your own opinion and belief system and not everyone subscribes to it.
But beyond that, your post stated: "before they provide blanket healthcare coverage that will simply be consumed by those that for the most part do nothing to deserve it." who are you to determine who did something to "deserve it" or not? I guarantee you that there are people much higher up on the ladder that would say the same thing about you and what you consume versus put into the system.
You step on a very dangerous cliff with your statement.
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satellite68
join:2007-04-11
Louisville, KY
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said by Skippy25 :So you don't agree with me, but dont come here calling me an idiot because my opinion differs from yours clown. For every positive you can provide for having universal healthcare I can give you a negative effect on society to the same magnitude. Just as for every other handout that occurs in this country. A vast majority of all problems in every nation is the direct result of "crutching" the nation and it's people from a social and economical standpoint. The laws of nature will prevail. We may be able to slow it down or distort it, but they will prevail. And the greatest law of nature is the process of natural selection whether you like it or not or want to accept it or not. Spoken like a true turd polisher and/or someone who doesn't have a handicapped or ill relative. Funny how universal health care seems to work just fine outside of our borders. Our system is the most expensive in the world, and we're the fattest pigs on the planet, not to mention with much shorter life spans. Yeah, that's a system I want to continue forever and ever. When will the mantra "it makes money, it must be good!" go away? Natural selection?! WTF is that? Who the fuck appointed you guardian of the universal truth? Why are you annoited as the arbinger of who gets fixed and who doesn't? |
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