 ztmikeMark for moderationPremium
join:2001-08-02
Michigan City, IN | wtf? "This looming surge in demand has the industry once again suggesting that it's time to migrate to a "bill by the byte" business model."
Please whoever this person, i hope their not in charge of anything, A moron like that has no business in broadband.
I find it sad that people are paying less than 40/month for a 100/100mbps connection without limits over seas, and here we are where companys like Comcast lie to their very own customers about their practices and even are going against the LAW serving their customers.
Then when confronted about shutting off their service for going over the limit, customer asks, "Well whats the limit then." Comcast= Just don't go over the limit. *click*
I get good Comcast HSI service but their way of business and speed tiers are really starting to push me away. |
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| You know what I'm sick of? People comparing what people overseas get, knocking down reviews and bitching and moaning, when the environment is nothing alike.
Guess what, most overseas ISPs charge by the bit for data. Telenet.be gives you 20 Mbps speed, and 35GB of transfer for only €61 a month. For those keeping score, that's $85 US. All in a country about the size of Maryland, with a much higher population density and almost 100% cable penetration.
Once people stop cherry picking places that make for ease of deployment and unusually cheap bandwidth, e.g. Korea, Japan, they find that the US pricing scheme is very reasonable. |
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3 edits | In strong contrast, many of our larger cities are more dense than theirs. Isn't that ironic? Guess what, most isps in those countries DO NOT have caps. Sweden, Japan, Italy, Finland, Korea, etc etc all have fiber and no caps. Want to toss out that argument that they are subsidized. Go for it. I will then counter that our tax dollars SUBSIDIZE the teclos and cable companies in terms of tax breaks and incentives to build out. Par for par, we pay more than most and get far less.
Population Density by country if anyone is curious:
»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_co···_density
By City:
»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_se···_density
As you can see.. the argument that we are less dense than other countries is a fallacy. The U.S. is more dense than Sweden, Norway, Finland. Sweden as we all know is one of the top countries int he world for fiber. Better yet, many of our cities are more dense than some of the largest around. |
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 halfbandPremium
join:2002-06-01
Huntsville, AL
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| So why don't all countries have virtually free broadband without any caps. Australia, the US, all of them. If is so easy to do, it would have been done by now right?
I know that in my area none of the cable systems are subsidised by the government. The government does however get the franchise fees from the cable companies.
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 dvd536as Mr. Pink as they comePremium
join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
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Re: wtf? said by ztmike:"This looming surge in demand has the industry once again suggesting that it's time to migrate to a "bill by the byte" business model." Please whoever this person, i hope their not in charge of anything, A moron like that has no business in broadband. I find it sad that people are paying less than 40/month for a 100/100mbps connection without limits over seas, and here we are where companys like Comcast lie to their very own customers about their practices and even are going against the LAW serving their customers. Then when confronted about shutting off their service for going over the limit, customer asks, "Well whats the limit then." Comcast= Just don't go over the limit. *click* I get good Comcast HSI service but their way of business and speed tiers are really starting to push me away. re: comcast, I wonder if the RST forged packets will be free or they'll have a "reduction in service FEE" if they decide they need to make your service crappy because you use P2P
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Re: wtf? said by ZTMIKEI find it sad that people are paying less than 40/month for a 100/100mbps connection without limits over seas, and here we are where companys like Comcast lie to their very own customers about their practices and even are going against the LAW serving their customers.
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macguy1
join:2007-08-18
Bloomfield, NJ | reply to ztmike
Re: wtf? You're right. I find it absolutely ridiculous that america can't get those kinds of speeds for those prices. It's just stupid.
I think it boils down to the ISPs trying to make as much profit as possible, while spending as little as possible. Now, I know that's how a business makes money, but when you're lieing to customers, restricting what they can do with their internet connection, and refusing to tell them what your invisible limits are, it's time to wake the hell up.
I'm glad I'm of off comcast now, but I know my ISP is probably using some forum of traffic shaping. Even if I don't even use bit torrent, I don't like ISPs doing this. Hopefully soon ISPs will wake up, and get with the times. America is one of the wealthiest countries in the world, yet we can't get internet connections as countries in europe, or places like japan. |
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Well directly or indirectly, all ISPS are subsidized. They are given tax breaks, incentives, or exclusive access to areas for building out. I am sure if you dig a bit deeper, you will find this to be true with your ISP, too. So why are they capped? Greed.... lack of competition... etc. ISPS who rule an area are free to set their price and limit. The minute competition comes around, their tune usually changes. Hence, without competition, no innovation or improvements happen. It's just a shame ISPS in U.S. aren't offering 10/10 to spark a bandwidth war. They all seem to offer the same low crap. It's just a matter of will you or will you not be capped. |
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