Re: What ever became........ in Digital Imaging http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r19064570 en Wed, 20 Aug 2008 23:53:52 EDT Wed, 20 Aug 2008 23:53:52 EDT Re: What ever became........ http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19135881 ErthBndAngel : When I sent the e-mail to MAW I mentioned the transfer of $$ to them as one of our major questions. When I actually speak with the woman at MAW perhaps we can simply have MAW create the paypal account that the funds are deposited in?
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I am a contradiction in terms. Good luck.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19135881 Mon, 24 Sep 2007 16:16:42 EDT Re: What ever became........ http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19131896 rcroning : Talking to as many professionals as well as MAW will help us in this matter. The rest of us can only speculate.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19131896 Sun, 23 Sep 2007 21:54:19 EDT Re: What ever became........ http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19131800 Kringle :
said by Jason Levine See Profile :

I could also talk with my uncle. He's a tax accountant (and does my taxes) so he might know how to approach this.
That's the only way to be sure. I mentioned this some time before but was told that it was sort of "different in the US". I'm glad you're taking the intelligent approach to this issue.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19131800 Sun, 23 Sep 2007 21:35:57 EDT Re: What ever became........ http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19131748 Jason Levine : Well, the taxes could be a problem. Let's say we use CafePress to make the calendars. CafePress would take their cut of the sales and send the remainder as a check to someone we designate (say me for now). I would deposit the check and send a payment for the same amount to Make-A-Wish Foundation.

The IRS, however, would see the CafePress payment as income and would require me to pay taxes on it. So the trick becomes how to tell the IRS that the "income" wasn't really income at all, but a charitable donation that I (or whomever we choose) was just routing from CafePress to the charity.

I'm thinking that Make-A-Wish might have some ideas about this. I could also talk with my uncle. He's a tax accountant (and does my taxes) so he might know how to approach this.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19131748 Sun, 23 Sep 2007 21:29:14 EDT Re: What ever became........ http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19127814 rcroning : WOW!!! I did not think my simple question would start the fire burning again. Maybe I should have broached the subject a long time ago.

Adding in my 2 cents I think we should:
-Open up for a few more submissions
-Stick to the charity originally chosen

I don't think taxes are a concern here as the proceeds will be going to a tax exempt organization.

I don't have much skills in layout or PS but I could help with proofreading. Other than that I have made a submission and would be happy to add a couple more if allowed.

Cheers,

Ralph.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19127814 Sun, 23 Sep 2007 02:25:00 EDT Re: What ever became........ http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19094935 ErthBndAngel : I'm still willing to help with the project and I think that the idea of starting with something smaller is also a good idea. I believe Jason has all the submissions at this point, but I also think it would be a good idea to start from fresh. With this new idea of a calendar it may change the type of images people choose to submit and will allow people to submit new images. I've designed a few calendars mainly for friends , family and a couple of local business using a combination of publisher for the dates portion and PS for the images portion. Just me offering up both my 2 cents and what time and skill I have.

Ok I've checked out a couple of the websites Jason mentioned and I'm just trying to figure out what the heck we're waiting for. A calendar and other products from any of these sites should be a piece of cake (and I'm talking tasty cake made by someone else...who brought milk). The book idea is HUGE and perhaps what we need is a year or three doing something like this successfully and then we can get some sponsorship with something larger like a book. The only thing this requires is getting the word out that the calendar is available. The sooner we get it done and get people talking about it the better, people are buying calendars now. I know I'm selling them to them.

Anyone know if we need permission from the Make A Wish foundation to use their name on and in relation to the project? If not I'm willing to start making calls and typing e-mails. Who knows what kind of help they and or their staff might be willing to offer if they knew about it.

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Pros: Less setup time/experience required. I think I could design a 18 month calendar given 18 photos.

Cons: Less money for the charity. (Then again, it's more than if the photobook project crashes and burns completely.) Less photographers featured (though we could make this a repeating project).

In fact, I think we should make this a poll to better gather opinions. I'll prep a poll now.

EDIT: Poll posted: »Future Of The Shooting For A Cause Project?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19087811 Sun, 16 Sep 2007 22:19:46 EDT Re: What ever became........ http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19067314 bgraham : The web site that Jason Levine put together »www.shootingforacause.com/ is still on my web server and still operates. There are a considerable number of pictures that have been uploaded.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19067314 Thu, 13 Sep 2007 12:48:27 EDT Re: What ever became........ http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19064570 Wayne GphFX : My last suguestion which was brushed off. Why just make something for us like a calendar or something worth buying. Sell it through here or Cafe Press for ex. and whatever the item makes donate the funds end of story :) No middle man or endless what do we do next threads :)
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»www.flickr.com/photos/waynegphfx/]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19064570 Wed, 12 Sep 2007 23:26:53 EDT Re: What ever became........ http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19060008 Jason Levine : I agree. Let's keep the previously chosen charity and just move forward from there. The first thing to do would be to find someone who could push the project forward. This would involve collecting more photos (if needed), getting them arranged as a photobook, dealing with the sales of the photobook, and properly donating the proceeds.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19060008 Wed, 12 Sep 2007 12:11:02 EDT Re: What ever became........ http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19059869 RowanDu : I thought we were all past the argueing.
Lets not start this again. everythings already been decided. all thats up to you now is to decide wether or not you wanna be a helping hand in it or not.
As for the book. like ive always said Id be more than willing to help in whatever way i could, my skills in photography and photoshop are both subpar, if you need anything else though IM here for you man.
Just dont give up yet. It can be done (although it may take a lot of time) as long as you keep going.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19059869 Wed, 12 Sep 2007 11:48:48 EDT Re: What ever became........ http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19056828 Wayne GphFX : it should always be for the kids period!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19056828 Tue, 11 Sep 2007 21:55:55 EDT Re: What ever became........ http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19056670 05241201 :
said by Kringle See Profile :

said by Jason Levine See Profile :

(Income taxes on the sales might will complicate matters.)
There, I corrected it for you.
most of us aren't in Canada; we don't have 50% income tax.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19056670 Tue, 11 Sep 2007 21:39:18 EDT Re: What ever became........ http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19056556 no__1__here :
said by major marco See Profile :

So the charities are all children oriented? Get some animal and/or adult charities on that list and I'll participate.
Wow.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19056556 Tue, 11 Sep 2007 21:22:30 EDT Re: What ever became........ http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19056110 SandShark : Oh? So, the charity that was voted for does not meet your criteria? Hmm, what a shame.
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Thanks,
Wayne
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»www.flickr.com/photos/waynegphfx/]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19050465 Mon, 10 Sep 2007 23:07:36 EDT Re: What ever became........ http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19049905 DreamWraith : as far as the layout is concerned, i wouldn't go so far as to say I am an expert, but i have done a bit of page layout in my days, and have a pretty good handle on what is needed.

I agree with jason about it being a good idea to at the very least, open submissions back up, and allow people to opt in who havent had the chance before, and maybe even submit a few more, etc.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19049905 Mon, 10 Sep 2007 21:53:25 EDT Re: What ever became........ http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19049840 Kringle :
said by Jason Levine See Profile :

(Income taxes on the sales might will complicate matters.)
There, I corrected it for you.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19049840 Mon, 10 Sep 2007 21:46:59 EDT Re: What ever became........ http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19049575 Jason Levine : 1. I would guess that the images that were submitted could still be used, though we could give people the choice to opt their images back out if they changed their mind.

2. It might be a good idea to reopen the book to new submissions. At the very least, it would drum up some renewed forum interest in the project. At the most, we would wind up with photos from newer forum members.

3. Though this could change depending on #2, the book right now is at the layout stage. We need to figure out which photos go where, at which sizes, and how attribution is done.

4. I believe we discussed prices in general. A lot will depend on how the book gets made. I looked around and LuLu.com seemed to be the best choice. No commitment has been made, though, so that could change if need be. I also hadn't figured out how best to handle the money transfer from the LuLu (or where ever) payments to the charity. (Income taxes on the sales might complicate matters.)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19049575 Mon, 10 Sep 2007 21:06:56 EDT Re: What ever became........ http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19048403 SandShark :
said by Jason Levine See Profile :

I was just talking with my wife about this yesterday. After awhile of real life distractions, I wanted to kick-start it up again, but it's becoming painfully obvious that I just won't have time to do it. Besides, I think we've reached a point that goes beyond my expertise. I'm still willing to lend a helping hand on the project, but I think we need a new project leader to take the submitted photos and move it past the goal line. Any volunteers?
I guess the questions I would ask are:

1) Would the images that have already been submitted and selected still be used?

2) This might be taking a step back, but does anyone think it would be a good idea to allow some new submissions? I ask only because it's been some time since the selections were made and there might be some new members who would like to have a chance to participate.

3) The last update we had from Jason Levine See Profile, he indicated that the book was at the layout stage and that he didn't feel qualified or experienced enough to do a photobook layout. From this post »Re: Photobook for a cause ErthBndAngel See Profile seemed to be the most qualified with publishing and doing layouts. Does the offer still stand?

4) It may have been addressed, but has the monetary obligation been brought up? Has a determination been reached as to what the final costs will be, how the books will be paid for, what each copy will cost, etc. Or, will it be a take orders/money first type deal before ordering printed copies?
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said by DreamWraith See Profile :

... realistically though, it would probably be best to start over, etc.
A poll for this might the best. However, a poll gauging overall interest in the project, regardless of how it works, is probably a more important first step.

Personally, I would probably submit something new but it would be only to jump on an already-crowded bandwagon.
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realistically though, it would probably be best to start over, etc.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19041589 Sun, 09 Sep 2007 16:34:23 EDT Re: What ever became........ http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19041460 JRSlater : There was also a small discussion about opening up submissions again, however at this point if there is still interest it may be best just to start all over from scratch. It's a fantastic idea and should be continued. (In my humble opinion. :))
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»www.flickr.com/photos/jrslater_photo/]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19041460 Sun, 09 Sep 2007 16:15:38 EDT Re: What ever became........ http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19040752 Kringle : Thank you. Now it's all neatly in one place. :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19040752 Sun, 09 Sep 2007 13:44:17 EDT Re: What ever became........ http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19040734 Catman :
said by DreamWraith See Profile :

i would be willing to step forward... providing there is still a willingness by the forum members to donate work...
If I recall, all submissions had been taken. There was a decision to be made as to what was going to be included.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19040734 Sun, 09 Sep 2007 13:39:45 EDT Re: What ever became........ http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19040728 SandShark :
said by Kringle See Profile :

For us newbies here, what is this "Charity Photobook" of which you speak? :)
»Shooting For A Cause: Pick the Cause
»Shooting For a Cause: Pick The Photo Book Cause Part 2
»[Help] Can it be done a BBR DI first? Photobook for a cause?
»[Help] [Poll] Our Photobook charity
»Photobook for a cause

Not necessarily in chronilogical order.
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»www.flickr.com/photos/jrslater_photo/]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19037076 Sat, 08 Sep 2007 18:56:34 EDT What ever became........ http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19033911 rcroning : ........of our charity Photobook project? Have not heard about it for a while.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19033911 Sat, 08 Sep 2007 03:35:17 EDT