Pagy
join:2005-06-21
Ottawa, ON
| reply to hacked
Re: Sympatico throttling Bit Torrents now???
btw 6-2am everyday, i've never seen a 30/60 cap
i think it's hard to prove that it's a connection issue or the torrent in most cases.
to all: in any case people whining about their ISP and switching is just... old hat. heavy users will always find issues and down the road you'll have issues with whoever you switch to. it's your right to switch carriers but please stop making it sound like anything other than just going with whatever is best for you and stop sounding like crying martyrs. |
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Annex
join:2007-11-21
| "i think it's hard to prove that it's a connection issue or the torrent in most cases."
Its not hard at all. Get a router with custom firmware like Tomato and watch the 24 hour graph. Watch your connection get throttled at 5pm or 6pm and then get unthrottled at 2am. Like clockwork.
Even easier way is change the login from Bell to another ISP like TS and watch your 30KB go back up to unthrottled speeds (500KB in my case). Switch back to Bell and its 30KB again. It aint the torrents. Besides if it was the torrents, why would Ventrilo go from 30ms to 18,000ms pings? Why would Hellgate: London go from 150ms to 4000ms and disconnect? |
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gord27
join:2005-05-01
Mississauga, ON | reply to kalg1975
cancelled my symp account today and now logged in on teksavvy. full speeds yay! |
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Homerific
@bell.ca
| reply to kalg1975
My cap usually ends at 2am, but for some reason i decided to open my BitComet early, at 1am, and to my amazement i wasn't throttled. Hopefully they have the cap set to each time zone now, rather than all of Canada set to the same clock.. but I'm sure that's just well-wishing. What's the point in going through the hassle of switching ISPS? At this pace, all providers will cap, throttle, or even start to ban P2P downloading in the future. |
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ASPHYX3
join:2007-11-21
Saint-Jean-Sur-Richelieu, QC
| i dont know where you are homerific but in the quebec time zone is was the same thing. from 6pm to 1am tonight. usually its 2 am.and i agree with you on the part of switching isp,but they gonna have to stop saying unlimited and show the true color of their offers.to ban p2p,that i dont think it could happen to many application with p2p involved.i suspected their is a little of p2p exchange when you play online since you have to send and receive info at the same time,but dont take my word for cash,i know little about that subject.but i still experience some lag during peak hours ,even if i called bs about it.(i had no others thing running on my connection) |
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notgood
@bell.ca | reply to kalg1975
Confirmed.Throttling starts 6 pm to 1am.7:30 am.D/l at full speed.I will check for 1 more week if throttling isn't 24/7 i don't mind.I'll stay with bell.will just queue the torrents at night. |
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notgood
@bell.ca | reply to kalg1975
They are doing the same thing telecommunications company has been doing for along time.During the peak out charge regular customer more so business can function.I think internet infrastructure needs serious investing. |
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b34tBoX
Premium
join:2003-12-28
Ontario, CAN
| reply to kalg1975
Anyone having problems getting a torrent to connect to certain tracker sites after loading it into their client?
I tried searching on the web, and pretty much seems that either my ISP has banned certain addresses (though I can still visit them in my browser), or I can only connect to UDP servers? I'm able to connect only when DHT is available.
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All Your Bass Are Belong To Us. |
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m4rcus
@bell.ca
| I went from 450kB/s to 56kB/s at 4:50pm, now at 7:19 i notice i'm at about 28kB/s.
The stupid thing is that in addition to capping BT traffic, they are including VoIP in the BT catagory. When they eiter cap it at 60 or 30, i can't make a phone call with Primus VoIP. the calls are fragmented or 1 sided.
For some odd reason i thought calling BS tech support and asking if they are are indeed throttling certain types of traffic based on application layer. Of course the douche had no idea what i was talking about, nor give me any answers. After explaining that i'm going to cancel my service on monday, he actualy tried to sell me on the "Laptop" deal that they push on people.
I'm so angry with BS for instituting these changes without notification.
TekkSavvy, get ready for an in-rush of customers! |
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wbastien
join:2004-08-08 | reply to kalg1975
This is RIDICULOUS!! I cannot believe they are capping our torrents, goodbye Bell! POS speed, service, and now this. |
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Qc_user
| reply to kalg1975
Well, right now, I don't have any throttling on my line. I tested my download with a Ubuntu distro by torrent and my connection was steady at 700k - 800k. |
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Homerific
@bell.ca
| reply to ASPHYX3
I'm in the saame time zone as you, EST. I live in Oakville, just south of Toronto. I used to have lag in gaming after they implemented the cap, but i got my line lowered from a 5mbps to a 4mbps which stopped my games from trying to fix errors that weren't there, hence the bandwidth being used in the background. Plus with the line being lowered, I haven't experienced any loss in download speed, and it rarely crashes now.
If anyone wants to check their line, go to »www.speedtest.net/ and take the test. To calculate your max download speed from your line, use the equation (x)mbps ÷ 8 = max speed. Hence 7mbps ÷ 8 = 875kb/s. Remember though that you'll probably never get your full 7mbps, but that's what the speedtest site is for  |
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Homerific
@bell.ca | 1am and my cap is off again. Beats 2am i guess. |
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Steve the Nerd
@teksavvy.com
| reply to kalg1975
two words -Bell Sucks... 
If I wasn't stupid and took one of the stupid contracts I would have left a year ago... lucky for me I have been using a teksavvy login for at least a year know when I heard them say 30 or 60 gig/month caps... I am seriously considering paying the hundred bucks and telling them to shove their crappy internet were th sun don't shine...
thanks for letting me vent... gotta go call bell and tell them off!!  |
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theninjasqua
join:2007-09-26
Oakville, ON | reply to Homerific
where abouts in Oakville? I'm in Oakville as well but I havent seen any throttling yet.
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Homerific
@bell.ca | White Oaks area |
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pwnedrice
join:2006-04-27 | reply to kalg1975
is it just me, or is tonight a non-throttling night for Bell?
i mean...im ACTUALLY getting 120kb/s....which is not bad...but...WOW, usually i get the throttled 30kb/s... |
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gflwrs
@bell.ca
| reply to kalg1975
I came to this forum looking for an explanation as to why torrents wont download faster than 25kB/s on Bell. It's been happening for around 2 weeks or so.
I've been downloading the same popular torrents every week for years. Usually with a few popular downloads going it's easy to max out around 300kB/s. So it's clear to me the difference.
I noticed someone on this thread said to turn on encryption and that the download cap would increase to around 130kB/s. I just did that and now a few minutes later I'm downloading at 156kB/s.
Something is definitely going on. I'm considering switching.
BTW, I'm in the Hamilton area. |
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A_better_Bell
@comcast.net
| I have the same issues - throttling at 30K/s. I've been battling it for the last couple of days trying to find ways around it. One way that seems to work for me in Ottawa is using a free proxy like this:
»www.torproject.org/
it takes a little bit of setting up, but azureus works nicely with it, and after about 10 minutes of it establishing network connections, it is giving me download speeds over 100K/s again... not quite the 500K/s I was getting, but better than 30K/s anyway... I'd be interested to see if other people have used the onion network (tor) and had similar luck. |
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going to leave
@bell.ca
| reply to kalg1975
I noticed that cap is the last month too. No matter how many torrents I'm running the max is 30KiBs. Weird thing was a got a email a month and half ago with Bell saying 7mbs and unlimited bandwidth. That's when I was getting 400KiBs it's just until recently I noticed the CAP. This might be my last straw with them. I don't get more than 5 mbs in everything else. Where is the 7mbs and the unlimited downloads? Anyone suggest a good alternative to bell in toronto? |
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