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jjoshua
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Scotch Plains, NJ
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So now I can pay twice...

I can pay once for the speed tier and again for the actual data. No thanks.

Who is going to pay for the continuous script kiddie activity hitting my firewall day and night? Not me.

openbox9

join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
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said by jjoshua:

I can pay once for the speed tier and again for the actual data. No thanks.
I would propose that the "speed tiers" go away and that you have a basic access fee and then be billed for usage.
said by jjoshua:

Who is going to pay for the continuous script kiddie activity hitting my firewall day and night? Not me.
You already are through your monthly bill. Besides, it would have to be on hell of a script kiddie to generate sufficient traffic bouncing up against your firewall to become an issue.


ChaosLurker

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said by jjoshua:

I can pay once for the speed tier and again for the actual data. No thanks.

Who is going to pay for the continuous script kiddie activity hitting my firewall day and night? Not me.
BINGO!....until they can prove that the activity on my IP is caused by me, and not some outside source constantly hammering my IP (by mistake OR design), they cannot realistically expect to run as a metered service. Example: I have Nextel, and kept getting unsolicited text messages (ADS!!) that I would have had to pay for since I didn't have a text message plan in place. (I have no use for it..really..) I told them to turn TEXT messaging off, and they said they could, but I would also lose voice-mail as a result (they said they were tied together, I think they were lying, but had no proof). What a clever way to sell a data plan....bill customer for unsolicited text messages, and then tell them to either buy a data plan, or lose voice-mail to keep from getting billed for the messages. Something similar could wind up happening to 'metered' HSI...."Well, since you seem to be getting a lot of incoming traffic, why don't you buy our higher-priced tier?"


jjoshua
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join:2001-06-01
Scotch Plains, NJ
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said by openbox9:

I would propose that the "speed tiers" go away and that you have a basic access fee and then be billed for usage.
So what would my speed be? ISPs throttle hogs to make sure that everyone has a good "experience". If you take away tiers or throttling then some people will not have a good "experience". Then where does that leave us?

Oh, also, folks are going to start getting wise to the 100k flash banner ads that get downloaded on every web page visit. Those do add up.

BosstonesOwn

join:2002-12-15
Everett, MA
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said by openbox9:

said by jjoshua:

I can pay once for the speed tier and again for the actual data. No thanks.
I would propose that the "speed tiers" go away and that you have a basic access fee and then be billed for usage.
said by jjoshua:

Who is going to pay for the continuous script kiddie activity hitting my firewall day and night? Not me.
You already are through your monthly bill. Besides, it would have to be on hell of a script kiddie to generate sufficient traffic bouncing up against your firewall to become an issue.
How about a script kiddy with a botnet that you pissed off by head shoting him on CSS. Maybe he can grab your ip from the server if its his and just sits there and DDos you from 1/4 the way around the world. Driving your bill up.
--
"It's always funny until someone gets hurt......and then it's absolutely friggin' hysterical!"

openbox9

join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
kudos:2

reply to jjoshua
Line speed, or whatever the ISP sets their ports at. Your "good experience" is handled by appropriate network management, charging users for their usage, and then using the increased revenue to build infrastructure accordingly.

As for flash banner, they're annoying and I already have them blocked...along with most other things that I don't want to see as part of my user experience.


openbox9

join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
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reply to BosstonesOwn
Cost of doing business. If consumers choose to piss off people along the way, then they need to be ready for the consequences. Why should the ISP be on the hook to pay for the blast of traffic stemming from your actions in this scenario? They shouldn't. They're simply passing along increased expense to their consumers...where it belongs.


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