Morac
join:2001-08-30
Riverside, NJ
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Re: If you cap it,they will download it
said by karlmarx  :But, your argument holds no merit. All of the shows on NBC are FREE already. They broadcast it over the air for all to watch. The fact that I choose to WATCH their FREE broadcast on a different medium is what annoys them. But downloading an OTA TV show from the internet is not stealing. If it's HBO or the like, then yes, you are stealing. But getting a FREE tv show in a format that is better for you is not immoral, illegal or wrong. If the version you downloaded has all the commercials intact I would agree with you, but all downloaded shows (pay or pirated) have the commercials removed. The commercials are what makes the show free. When the commercials are removed it is no longer free and at that point it would be considered stealing.
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@ssa.gov | My VCR automatically skips commercials. I guess it is stealing?
If I manually fast forward, am I stealing? |
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join:2004-06-05
Toronto | Yes! |
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ross
join:2000-08-16
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said by Nightfall :You were replying to what swhx7 said. At least that is what I thought. Obviously, you didn't mean to click on the "Reply" box on his post. You meant to do it on the first post. As for the "try to pay attention" remark, you might want to invoke a little more respectable attitude. People make reply mistakes all the time. Belittling someone is not really a great course of action. Absolutely not! You took issue with karlmarx, who was taking issue with x544348, who was taking issue with swhx7, who was questioning Chiyo.
I was taking issue with you for the reason I stated. That is why I clicked on your post reply box, not anyone else's.
The point was no one was talking about anything but TV, until you tried to introduce "software, games, music, and so on", which was irrelevant to karlmarx's reply to x544348. You then attributed the addition of software, games, etc. to x544348 by inference; "I am pretty sure he (emphasis added) was talking about the latter."-Nightfall
The discussion was/is about broadcast TV programs downloaded off the net...and I agree with karlmarx, not with x544348, and so, apparently, do you. So why your off-topic reference to illegal downloading of software, games, etc., muddying the waters? Either you had an agenda, or you weren't paying attention. Either way, your remarks re illegal "software, games, music, and so on", were irrelevant, and only served to obfuscate the points so aptly summarized by karlmarx.
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TKJunkMail
Enjoy the sun
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join:2002-03-03
Avalon, NJ | I wasn't just talking TV. I was talking about pirating in general. |
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ross
join:2000-08-16
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| said by TKJunkMail :I wasn't just talking TV. I was talking about pirating in general. I understood exactly what you had to say. So did karlmarx. |
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compton
join:2002-02-08
Brooklyn, NY
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said by Sammer :said by Corehhi : What's the difference in taping the shows yourself or going on the internet and getting a copy of it? Those TV shows really don't have any replay value anyways. In a lot of cases I think it actually gets more viewers to tune into something they don't normally watch. A Supreme Court ruling (Disney vs. Betamax) is the difference between taping the shows off the air for your own personal use and getting them off the internet. Since NBC charges sponsors when it airs reruns (admittedly less) it would certainly argue that there is replay value. You are correct. Taping a show for your own personal use is legal. If you share that show over the Internet then you are no longer using it for personal use; therefore, you are breaking the copyright agreement. Also, stripping out the commercials are illegal. There was a law that passed about 3 years ago making it illegal for DVD and VCR recorders sold in the United States to have the ability to skip commercials when recording. They can have features that can skip over the commercials when fast forwarding, but they can't bypass the recording of those commercials. |
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KrK
Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy
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join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK
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said by Hehe :
My VCR automatically skips commercials. I guess it is stealing?
If I manually fast forward, am I stealing?
YOU TERRORIST!!
j/k 
Well sorta. Seriously, I think there are some types who think like that.
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grandpinaple
join:2006-01-03
New York, NY | reply to compton
Because if the Supreme Court says so it must be true. |
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