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Then why not spend a little of those earnings to build a network that is competitive for the future?

CLEARLY..Uverse is a questionable service at best. I mean, everywhere I go on the net where it's being discussed it's often times talked about in less than glowing terms.

Is that what AT&T wants? Is that a product that's going to sell in big numbers? I don't think so.

And again, you need to understand that that is what is happening TODAY. And uverse..for all intents and purposes..is AT&T's NEXT generation service. Which is why I compare it to Verizons FIOS and cables docsis 3.0.

And, when you put it under that microscope..it simply falls apart. There is no comparison at all.

Honestly, I think it's a fair comparison to say that uverse will be a 386sx computer in a world of quad core systems.

And, we all know how that one went..don't we?

The sad thing about AT&T IMHO is their apparent inability to have very much vision for the future. They've been so damn concerned with growth via acquiring other companies and returning the almighty dollars to their bottom line, that everything else seems to just not really matter.

A poster above said that what at&t is now doing is what the cable co's did over 10 years ago. And, they are exactly right. This company is WAY behind the cable industry.

Why not future proof their network and do it right for a change? We who live in their territory deserve the same thing that Verizon customers are now getting.

World class competition.

AT&T can do it.
And must do it to survive.
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Rick, do you realize your on a DOCSIS network, sharing a collective 38 mbps bandwidth with at lease 100 other people?

Do the math. 38 mbps / 100 users = .38 mbps per user ratio. And that is only with 100 people, its likely much higher.

Now do the same for U-verse. Oh wait, it's not shared until it gets to the VRAD, and there is at least 2.4 - 10 gbps there.

100 users x 6 mbps = 600 mbps.

Ok, lets do DOCSIS 3:

160 Mbps / 100 users = 1.6 Mbps collectively each.

and a double wide DOCSIS 3 channel:

320 Mbps / 100 users = 3.2 Mbps collectively each.

Even with U-verses 6 mbps per consumer, they still have collective access to nearly 2-4x the bandwidth as a DOCSIS 3 node with 100 people on it.

I can't argue that 6mbps is faster than a cable docsis node giving users 5-20 mbps of burst traffic, since not everyone is online at one time, but the combined resources available on a docsis network is considerably less than a U-verse node.

You act as if 6 mbps is the end all for U-verse, but it's only the beginning. Comcast didn't start off by giving it's users 20 mbps. They started at only 1.5 mbps or less. In time, U-verses capacity will really be put into full swing. After they get things running smoothly, and any issues worked out, they will start pair bonding, which will deliver anywhere from 50-60 mbps to long reach homes, and 100-200 mbps to closer homes. And if 2 pairs isn't enough, then bond 3 or 4 pairs. By that time, AT&T will be able to offer faster internet packages, such as 25 mbps or 50 mbps, or even 100 mbps and beyond. And unlike a cable DOCSIS 3 node, it has gigabits of available capacity at the VRAD, instead of just 160 mbps on a cable node.

I love cable technology just as much as you Rick, and I believe in the technology. But until the cable companies drop the analog channels which chew up 80% or so of the bandwidth available on the coax, AT&T will simply have more bandwidth available for two way data than a cable node has. They may not be giving users the raw bandwidth you want now, but trust me, it will come, their network is very capable of delivering it.

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Rick, do you realize your on a DOCSIS network, sharing a collective 38 mbps bandwidth with at lease 100 other people?

Do the math. 38 mbps / 100 users = .38 mbps per user ratio. And that is only with 100 people, its likely much higher.

Now do the same for U-verse. Oh wait, it's not shared until it gets to the VRAD, and there is at least 2.4 - 10 gbps there.

100 users x 6 mbps = 600 mbps.

Ok, lets do DOCSIS 3:

160 Mbps / 100 users = 1.6 Mbps collectively each.

and a double wide DOCSIS 3 channel:

320 Mbps / 100 users = 3.2 Mbps collectively each.

Even with U-verses 6 mbps per consumer, they still have collective access to nearly 2-4x the bandwidth as a DOCSIS 3 node with 100 people on it.

I can't argue that 6mbps is faster than a cable docsis node giving users 5-20 mbps of burst traffic, since not everyone is online at one time, but the combined resources available on a docsis network is considerably less than a U-verse node.

You act as if 6 mbps is the end all for U-verse, but it's only the beginning. Comcast didn't start off by giving it's users 20 mbps. They started at only 1.5 mbps or less. In time, U-verses capacity will really be put into full swing. After they get things running smoothly, and any issues worked out, they will start pair bonding, which will deliver anywhere from 50-60 mbps to long reach homes, and 100-200 mbps to closer homes. And if 2 pairs isn't enough, then bond 3 or 4 pairs. By that time, AT&T will be able to offer faster internet packages, such as 25 mbps or 50 mbps, or even 100 mbps and beyond. And unlike a cable DOCSIS 3 node, it has gigabits of available capacity at the VRAD, instead of just 160 mbps on a cable node.

I love cable technology just as much as you Rick, and I believe in the technology. But until the cable companies drop the analog channels which chew up 80% or so of the bandwidth available on the coax, AT&T will simply have more bandwidth available for two way data than a cable node has. They may not be giving users the raw bandwidth you want now, but trust me, it will come, their network is very capable of delivering it.