Re: How will they make money doing this? in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r19090696 en Tue, 15 Dec 2009 00:58:40 EDT Tue, 15 Dec 2009 00:58:40 EDT Re: How will they make money doing this? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19093775 wifi4milez :
said by mogooder See Profile :

Its a Co-op, Its not about making money.
mogooder
Co-op or not, they still need to make money or the organization will cease to exist.
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said by wifi4milez See Profile :

How do they plan on making money after building a 10 gig fiber ring given that they only have 17,000 subs?
From the article it sounds like they are building their own ring. My guess is while the fiber is designed to support 10G most likely initial build-out will not fully utilize it. The important aspect it building the ring itself.

From the article sounds like they are going with Remote Terminals to reduce copper distance and allow them to deliver DSL where they would normally not be able to do so. At the same time upgrade copper outside plant (OSP). Much better to install fiber then copper. The fiber will allow them to serve more customers and generate additional revenue.

IPTV is only going to be available to customers near the RT due to copper limitations.

While I would rather see a Verizon approach of rolling out a FTTP network seems like these guys have struck a reasonable balance of capital cost vs new services. Nothing wrong with bootstrapping.

/Tom]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19093391 Mon, 17 Sep 2007 19:06:20 EDT Re: How will they make money doing this? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19093184 mogooder : Its a Co-op, Its not about making money.
mogooder
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"The Secret is in the RITHMATIC" Henry Hudson]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19093184 Mon, 17 Sep 2007 18:29:42 EDT Re: How will they make money doing this? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19092108 MrMoody : I'm guessing they're getting some sort of help from ConnectKentucky.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19092108 Mon, 17 Sep 2007 15:50:37 EDT Re: How will they make money doing this? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19090780 wifi4milez :
said by PDXPLT See Profile :

said by wifi4milez See Profile :

They even mention that only half of their subs will be reached by the new network.
No, they said only half will get IPTV. This sounds like a FTTN project; only those close enough to a node for high-enough speeds on ADSL2+ will get TV, I guess.

Since they're not a publicly-traded corporation, all they need to do is not lose money. They don't need to maximize ROI in order to make Wall St. happy.

USF funds aren't available to fund broadband, except to schools. It's only for basic telephony.
Forget about maximizing ROI, I am more curious about how they plan on not losing money by doing this. While they are not a public company, they still need to make money in order to survive. 10 gig rings are not cheap (even from a wholesale perspective) here in NYC, I cant even imagine the cost to deploy one in a very rural area! I am not saying this cant be done, I would just really like to see the business plan and look at the numbers to understand how they are going to make it work.
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said by wifi4milez See Profile :

They even mention that only half of their subs will be reached by the new network.
No, they said only half will get IPTV. This sounds like a FTTN project; only those close enough to a node for high-enough speeds on ADSL2+ will get TV, I guess.

Since they're not a publicly-traded corporation, all they need to do is not lose money. They don't need to maximize ROI in order to make Wall St. happy.

USF funds aren't available to fund broadband, except to schools. It's only for basic telephony.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19090696 Mon, 17 Sep 2007 12:16:00 EDT How will they make money doing this? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19090513 wifi4milez : How do they plan on making money after building a 10 gig fiber ring given that they only have 17,000 subs? They even mention that only half of their subs will be reached by the new network. I would be interested in seeing the numbers associated with this project!
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