Re: We'll see in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r19127242 en Wed, 10 Feb 2010 06:27:28 EDT Wed, 10 Feb 2010 06:27:28 EDT Re: We'll see http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19128944 hescominsoon :
said by milnoc See Profile :

ExpressVu also has NFL Sunday Ticket. ExpressVu also has something that's difficult to obtain from US satellite companies: US network feeds in different time zones.

Since the introduction of DirecTv's P4 cards, I've yet to hear from a reliable source that they've been cracked. So for now, DirecTv could be considered an "artificially secure" service provider i.e. no valid reason to crack their current security... YET!
most times they don't even defeat the encryption but going after the cipher but rather the area where the keys are stored. In the case of BRD and HDDVD they did not crack the AES itself but they found the keys stored in memory and unlocked the encryption. Cracking modern encryption itself is not worth the time..finding the keys is much easier and takes much less effort.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19128944 Sun, 23 Sep 2007 11:31:51 EDT Re: We'll see http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19127437 hayabusa3303 :
said by MacLeech See Profile :

Any HD on that thing?
So much i cant count anymore. Anything that is on Directv or dish or cable comes from c-band.

»www.motorola.com/content.jsp?glo···050-8100

here is a list its only about 3/4 but you get the idea. It fails to name other broadcast formats also which can be picked up for free yes free. Also there is alot of stuff on Ku band side not much but there is stuff there.

I also have a east to west view so i can pick up the atlantic sats which are feeds coming from Uk points east toward russia.

They use secam over there you can get a invertor to you can convert it to ntsc.

There are tons of Trvo stuff.

The Goes sats if you know what they are (weather) you can get update just like the weather channel does.

How about that for starters and people think c-band is dead. Its alive and good and there is talk of the jump to 1080p broadcast.

Did i say about price per month? i forgot i pay who i want to watch and no la carte crap. I would say about 80 percent is FREE. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19127437 Sun, 23 Sep 2007 00:15:55 EDT Re: We'll see http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19127242 MacLeech : Any HD on that thing?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19127242 Sat, 22 Sep 2007 23:19:30 EDT Re: We'll see http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19127224 hayabusa3303 :
said by dvd536 See Profile :

said by hayabusa3303 See Profile :

thats what they said about the DigiCipher for c band.

Its still not cracked(that i know about). That came out in what 1997.
how many people or hackers for that matter want a 8 foot dish in their yard/roof?
10 deep dish here horizon to horizon best picture yet.

1st gen. signal too compared to 2nd and third gen signal with directv or cable. ;)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19127224 Sat, 22 Sep 2007 23:15:07 EDT Re: We'll see http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19126472 dvd536 :
said by hayabusa3303 See Profile :

thats what they said about the DigiCipher for c band.

Its still not cracked(that i know about). That came out in what 1997.
how many people or hackers for that matter want a 8 foot dish in their yard/roof?
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Since the introduction of DirecTv's P4 cards, I've yet to hear from a reliable source that they've been cracked. So for now, DirecTv could be considered an "artificially secure" service provider i.e. no valid reason to crack their current security... YET!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19125680 Sat, 22 Sep 2007 17:55:02 EDT Re: We'll see http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19125345 MacLeech :
said by Joe12345678 See Profile :

Do the chips work with SDV and on demand?
As long as the equipment makers follow the whole DCAS spec and build the equipment with 2-way capability like it's supposed to be.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19125345 Sat, 22 Sep 2007 16:35:35 EDT Re: We'll see http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19125322 Joe12345678 : Do the chips work with SDV and on demand?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19125322 Sat, 22 Sep 2007 16:29:27 EDT Re: We'll see http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19125309 MacLeech :
said by milnoc See Profile :

there's no reason for satellite pirates to crack encryptions used by other service providers such as DirecTv and Star Choice unless those services started to provide channels that Dish and Bev simply can't acquire.
Like NFL Sunday ticket?

That's one huge reason crackers would go after DirecTV...

DirecTV has been hacked numerous times before... it's just that DirecTV goes after them:
»www.theregister.co.uk/2001/01/25···t_cards/]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19125309 Sat, 22 Sep 2007 16:27:24 EDT Re: We'll see http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19125274 milnoc : The fact the encryption hasn't been broken yet is misleading. Pirates usually start by cracking the encryption that's the easiest to break, and only work on harder encryption methods when the content supported by the previous encryption is no longer satisfactory. For example, as long as Dish and ExpressVu continue to use the cracked Nagravision encryption, there's no reason for satellite pirates to crack encryptions used by other service providers such as DirecTv and Star Choice unless those services started to provide channels that Dish and Bev simply can't acquire.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19125274 Sat, 22 Sep 2007 16:18:39 EDT Re: We'll see http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19125136 Nightshade : But of course, now it will only take a week to hack the code instead of a month cause they made that statement.
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Its still not cracked(that i know about). That came out in what 1997. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19125130 Sat, 22 Sep 2007 15:54:48 EDT We'll see http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19125087 tim_k : “The code is supposed to be unhackable..."

Famous last words?
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