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justin147

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Re: First Admendment Right

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I have the right of free speech. Guaranteed by the FIRST ADMENDMENT of the CONSTITUTION of the UNITED STATES.
And how does wiretapping do anything to your free speech rights?
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Verizon, AT&T and whomever else participated in this mockery of "MY" rights being violated need to be hauled before the courts for violation of said rights.
You have no privacy rights to not be listened in to. You only have the right NOT to have that used against you in court. Businesses listen in all the time to phone calls. So what rights of yours was violated.
We all have the right to expect that our "phone conversations" with family, or best friend, or even business associate will not be listened to. How different would we speak with each other if we thought for a second that we were being listend to, Court or No Court?


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said by justin147 See Profile :

We all have the right to expect that our "phone conversations" with family, or best friend, or even business associate will not be listened to. How different would we speak with each other if we thought for a second that we were being listend to, Court or No Court?
For the last 20years I have always assumed I was being listened to on the phone and now on the internet. Before I retired I was head of telecomm at a major corporation. And believe me, there has been no such a thing as private conversations(except on scrambled phones) for a very long time.
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said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

Before I retired I was head of telecomm at a major corporation. And believe me, there has been no such a thing as private conversations(except on scrambled phones) for a very long time.
That is true but there is a world of difference between a craftsperson listening to a call (officially for maintenance purposes) and a Telco or ISP making customer information available to law enforcement without a warrant.

/Tom


karlmarx

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It explains a LOT about your positions. It must be a very sad world you live in. A world filled with fear and loathing. A world where there are bad guys everywhere. A world where you EXPECT to be monitored. I thought we had gotten past that when we defeated the nazi's, but apparently you are still living in the 1940's, where the citizens are AFRAID of their government.
That's wrong on so many levels. It explains why you post what you do, because you see a 'terrist' behind every door, and you want the gestapho to protect you from the bad me.

I live in a world where I expect, no DEMAND privacy from spying eyes. I live in a world where I expect the government to FEAR ME. I have a gun. I carry a gun every day, and it gives you a feeling of power. It's not a 'good' feeling to take home when I get back, but where I am, it's necessary to survive. I DO NOT want to go back to a country where I fear the government. They trained me how to kill, and if I get back to that country, where I fear the government, I fully expect to use that training to overthrow our facist government, and replace it with the FUNDAMENTAL rights we were guaranteed by that 'worthless piece of paper' as our delusional commander in chief calls it.
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I live in a world where I expect, no DEMAND privacy from spying eyes. I live in a world where I expect the government to FEAR ME. I have a gun. I carry a gun every day, and it gives you a feeling of power. It's not a 'good' feeling to take home when I get back, but where I am, it's necessary to survive. I DO NOT want to go back to a country where I fear the government. They trained me how to kill, and if I get back to that country, where I fear the government, I fully expect to use that training to overthrow our facist government, and replace it with the FUNDAMENTAL rights we were guaranteed by that 'worthless piece of paper' as our delusional commander in chief calls it.
Well, you have bigger problems than someone listening in on your phone. When you get back, the FBI may be doing more than listening in. Keep an eye out for the people following you around after your stated plans to overthrow the government are read. I am sure some FBI or NSA computer has already digested your statements.
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said by justin147 See Profile :

We all have the right to expect that our "phone conversations" with family, or best friend, or even business associate will not be listened to. How different would we speak with each other if we thought for a second that we were being listend to, Court or No Court?
For the last 20years I have always assumed I was being listened to on the phone and now on the internet. Before I retired I was head of telecomm at a major corporation.
Ohhh, yeah, we know that. Major head, major... major! In order! The nurse is coming! Take your pills and get off the computer...
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