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royalpalm

join:2000-12-01
usa

reply to jc100

Re: Telcos Deserve Immunity

There are 1.6 billion Muslims in the world. Top counter terrorism author believe that anywhere from 6-8% of Muslims are extremist. Therefore 80 million is a safe number. And sorry, I certainly can support warrantless wire taps and not support microchipping. Just because they are fused into one idea in your mind does not mean they are "apples to apples." Two separate ideas two separate topics. I find it interesting that you feel foreign terrorism only consists of the 4000 dead on 9/11. If you truly feel that Islamic terrorism is not a threat then prove yourself right after reading the Manchester Manual. You may have to order it from a source outside the US because it is classified.

jc100

join:2002-04-10

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1.5 billion Christians and 1.2 billion Muslims. The same math can be applied to Christianity. Do you not read what I wrote. Just recently, 100-200,000 MUSLIMS were MURDERED by the Christian Serbs in genocidal warfare. A WHOLE COUNTRY of Christians murdering Muslims. Then we had Hitler who killed 6 million with the help of the Baptist, Methodist, Catholic Church... So do me favor, stick all Christians in concentration or prison camps. We can't trust a single one of them. After all, if you want to label Muslims terrorist, you need to do the same to Christians. Otherwise, if you want to be rational and logical, you can see its only a SMALL percentage of both groups with radical ties and accept it at that fact. If not, which camp do you propose the Christians go to? Should we lock them up with or without the Muslims? I mean, they might not get along too well. Either way, it's your choice, seeing the Christians have killed around 6.5-7 million people this past century.... far more than 4000 Americans killed in 9/11 and the few hundred thousand in the ethnic strife taking place in Iraq...This of course, doesn't account for Domestic Terrorism in the U.S> (Oklahoma City (second worst attack on U.S. done by Christian), Abortion Clinic bombings, etc...)

Side note... Microchipping and wiretaps are one in the same. If you are dedicated to helping the intelligence world, you don't mind giving away EVERY LAST ONE of your freedoms to ensure your safety. Once again, its either all or none there buddy. You can't have it both ways. You either are wanting undying security which means giving away all rights no matter the cost, or you want freedom, which means keeping those rights. As let's face it, you give away one and it's no time before they want more and more. SO make up your mind? You don't seem very certain of yourself. You only want to give up one now, but when's the last time anyone just wanted one of something? You are just fooling yourself man and it's quite sad. Seriously, if you are so apt to give away your rights in the name of pseudo security, why live in the U.S? China gives it citizens very few rights and has 24/7 monitoring of its citizens. That sounds more in your ballpark for a place to live.



kamm

join:2001-02-14
Brooklyn, NY

reply to royalpalm
Gee, you DID lost it, royalpalm.
I suggest you to talk to a shrink.

I'm dead serious - you really sound like somebody completely lost his sense of reality.



Karl Bode
News Guy
join:2000-03-02
kudos:30

reply to pnh102
Well, I think this high quality discussion is over.


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