NormanS
Premium,MVM
join:2001-02-14
San Jose, CA
 ·Pacific Bell - SBC
| reply to Bradddd
Re: U-verse internet only justification
said by Bradddd :
Anyone know why they only allow 6.0mbps
It is not what is "allowed", it is what is provided. AT&T installs FTTN (the VRAD being the "N") for the sole purpose of selling TV. They don't want to not put TV out of those fancy, expensive boxes that have to be paid for by subscription.
Perhaps if you offer to pay them double for fast Internet (25mbps, tops) what they collect for IPTV?
Would you really pay $100 per month for Internet only? I wouldn't, and I think very few would (I would not pay my old dial-up provider $99 per month for their SDSL product, either).
If I can't get HSI for under $30 per month I'll go back to dial-up.
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Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
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KrK
Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy
Premium
join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK
·AT&T Yahoo
·AT&T DSL Service
 ·Cox HSI
·AT&T Southwest
| reply to treaders
It's purely for (anti)Competitive reasons. This keeps you off Cable and off DirecTV, for example. It also means they know you're more likely to suffer with problems with the TV service in order to not forfeit your solid DSL line. Yes, it does suck. |
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KrK
Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy
Premium
join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK
·AT&T Yahoo
·AT&T DSL Service
·Cox HSI
·AT&T Southwest
| reply to Frohike
said by Frohike  :Won't work. Cancel TV - the internet goes with it. The ordering system doesn't allow the rep to seperate it. ... By design. Unless you're saying that software cannot be updated. |
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA
·RoadRunner Cable
·DSL EXTREME
| reply to Frohike
said by Frohike :said by MarkyD :order internet+TV and then cancel the TV portion. They're not going to go to the effort of moving you off the lightspeed network (moving you off the VRAD). Won't work. Cancel TV - the internet goes with it. The ordering system doesn't allow the rep to seperate it. According to the 'sales kid' that was here, if you have Internet, they can't offer the same rate on standard DSL (i.e. I have 3000-1500/512 on DSL as 12,000', and I went to 6Mbps/1Mbps), they would allow you to keep the Internet service. I haven't tried this (yet), but may try it after my DTV and DSL-Extreme contracts are up.
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langanfam
join:2006-09-30
Altadena, CA
| reply to treaders
My post before was from "Bradddd", I forgot I had a registered account.
Anyways we took the plunge and canceled DirectTV and DSLExtreme and now have ATT U-Verse.
I will say I'm impressed. The internet is a full 1mbps faster even though I supposedly had the 6.0 package through DSLextreme. Also my upload speed doubled, which is nice considering I use my upload very often.
Also I like the tv better then directtv. We got double the channels for the same price. Also you don't have to wait to watch certain movies on HBO, Cinemax, ect. you simply watch them WHENEVER you want, no set stop or start time, best feature in my opinion.
I had to pay $200 to get out of contract with DirectTV, but at this point it seems worth it. Also ATT is growing so fast that I see many more great features being added in the future.
Oh yea one other thing, the install tech told me they have the capability to run 15mbps or faster, but they just havent allowed it yet, but the technology is supposedly there, hopefully we will see it soon. |
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Freezone
join:2000-09-29
Southfield, MI | reply to NormanS
I would sign up for $100 25/2 service so fast it would not even be funny. I used to pay $110 a month for speakeasy 6/768. I currently pay for both comcast and u-verse internet. |
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MarkyD
Premium
join:2002-08-20
Oklahoma City, OK
clubs:
·Cox HSI
| said by Freezone :I would sign up for $100 25/2 service so fast it would not even be funny. Ditto. I'm on FTTP, as well...I'd pay for 25/2 if they'd give it to me. |
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kilometers
join:2007-01-24
Sacramento, CA | reply to treaders
I'm just wondering. Even if they ever did offer an internet only package (haha, yeah right) would their vdsl setup allow for faster upload speeds than 2mbps? |
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NormanS
Premium,MVM
join:2001-02-14
San Jose, CA
·Pacific Bell - SBC
| VDSL allows for 52Mbps/16Mbps. Assuming that AT&T will offer it.
»electronics.howstuffworks.com/vdsl2.htm
I am just wondering how they will react when Comcast begins to deploy Docsis 3.0 in my region?
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Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
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rugby
I think I know it all.
VIP
join:2000-09-26
Camby, IN | reply to Freezone
Hell yeah, I pay $80/month for Static Elite, I would pay $20 more/month for that speed. |
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kilometers
join:2007-01-24
Sacramento, CA
·SureWest Internet
 ·AT&T U-Verse
1 edit | reply to treaders
I'd be extremely happy if they just let me have 10/10. If they're spending the money on setting up these FTTN connections they need to offer more than just TV tied with lackluster speeds when the line is capable of more. Why turn down extra business because they don't want to offer straight internet connections that utilize the bandwidth capabilities of vdsl...
Oh well. Their loss. |
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA
·RoadRunner Cable
·DSL EXTREME
| reply to NormanS
said by NormanS :VDSL allows for 52Mbps/16Mbps. Assuming that AT&T will offer it. » electronics.howstuffworks.com/vdsl2.htmI am just wondering how they will react when Comcast begins to deploy Docsis 3.0 in my region? VDSL is good for 52/26Mbps,
VDSL2/VDSL2+ is good for +100Mbps
»ist-muse.org/Documents/NOC2005/S···orks.pdf
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Canada = Hollywood North |
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IdahoEv
@speakeasy.net | reply to treaders
I just ordered U-Verse because the sales rep who came to my door told me the TV connection is free for the first month and I could cancel it anytime during that month to get just the internet.
Was the guy lying to me? |
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koolkid1563
Premium,MVM
join:2005-11-06
Powell, WY
clubs:
·Bresnan Online
| You do get TV for free for the first month, but you still have to pay for the internet, which isn't that bad anyways.
As for the option to keep the internet after you cancel TV, that used to be a loophole in their system, but I don't know if it is still there. |
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treaders
join:2007-09-23
Houston, TX
| reply to NormanS
At »www.att.com/Uverse/files/u-verse···ml#Order it now says:
"May I order only AT&T U-verse TV, or only AT&T Yahoo! High-speed Internet U-verse Enabled service?
Yes, but you get a discount for having both services. Please visit »uverse.att.com for more product and service information."
I have not yet worked out how to order internet only though. |
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d_l
Barsoom
Premium,MVM
join:2002-12-08
Reno, NV | Maybe internet only is under the "build your own" section? |
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Enlightener
join:2006-01-28
Cedar Park, TX | reply to treaders
You left out the word (Build Your Own ) `package`. And if there concept of a package is a single service, starting at $54.95 sure is expensive for 1.5MB service. |
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | I'm sure there are many that would like to have Internet and Wireless or Internet and VoIP without TV from AT&T.
Qwest appears to be going for high speed DSL w/o TV... why can't AT&T.
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Canada = Hollywood North |
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA
·RoadRunner Cable
·DSL EXTREME
| It looks like AT&T CAN and DOES offer VDSL (dry no less) Internet service... you just have to order it through a San Antonio office.
I received one of those $50 reward junk mail items if I sign up for AT&T Yahoo Internet 'pro' or higher speed.
Well, AT&T no longer offers pro speed at my address (even though I have 3008/512 package on DSL-Ex, and I'm sync'd at that rate!).
I called the 1-866 # to find out what the deal was, as I don't qualify for 'pro'. The C.S. rep was nice enough, and apologized for the confusion, as I don't qualify for it on DSL, but attempted to sell me on Uverse 'pro' or 'elite', which doesn't have the rebates 
I told him that its no good, as I'm in contract for my TV, and don't want to deal with the outages reported (vs. ~5 minutes since 2003 on DTV due to heavy rain).
He then went to say that I could purchase Uverse Internet ONLY 'pro' for $30/month, or 'elite' for $40/month.
This is GOOD NEWS! I even made sure it didn't require POTS/LD! I mentioned that I'd have to wait for my DSL contract to be up, as well as AT&T to launch VoIP before I'd switch. I have the callback # for ordering it 
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KYOTO
@sbcglobal.net | reply to treaders
From my xperience, you gain nutting by switching to UVerse enabled internet. I had Pro Uverse enabled internet at the same speed as the non Uverse enabled internet(HSI Pro) but got charged more so I cancelled. |
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