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LiberalKing
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Bronx, NY

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another good thread to bash the U.S.A

why dont we in america get this speeds?. how come the hong kongers, koreans and the swedes get it. is it THE AMERICAN GREED?

bogey7806

join:2004-03-19
Here
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You don't have those speeds because you don't want to pay what it would cost to get them HERE.

Next BBR can post the price of oil in Saudi Arabia and how it's awful that we can't get nickel/gallon gas here.


MrMoody
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Smithfield, NC
reply to LiberalKing
They think we'd just use it to trade 20 DVDs a day.


VegasMan
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reply to LiberalKing
Look where we are talking about. Relatively small countries and only in the cities in these countries. When you don't have to wire half the freakin world it's easy to do. Also most of these people live in MDU anyway so that makes it 100's of times easier to deploy than here in the US where most are Single Family units.
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dvd536
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reply to LiberalKing
said by LiberalKing:

why dont we in america get this speeds?. how come the hong kongers, koreans and the swedes get it. is it THE AMERICAN GREED?
BINGO!
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tglea

join:2007-08-13
Mexico
reply to VegasMan
said by VegasMan:

Look where we are talking about. Relatively small countries and only in the cities in these countries. When you don't have to wire half the freakin world it's easy to do. Also most of these people live in MDU anyway so that makes it 100's of times easier to deploy than here in the US where most are Single Family units.
Agree! Not to mention the cost of labor in these Asian locations. They are able to build these networks using labor that is probably pennies on the dollar. Anyone who knows anything about construction knows that the labor costs far exceed the cost of materials.


HotRodFoto
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join:2003-04-19
Denver, CO
reply to VegasMan
said by VegasMan:

Look where we are talking about. Relatively small countries and only in the cities in these countries. When you don't have to wire half the freakin world it's easy to do. Also most of these people live in MDU anyway so that makes it 100's of times easier to deploy than here in the US where most are Single Family units.
That is no excuse why this kinda speed is NOT available in the biggest 50 cities in America. We keep falling farther and farther behind
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tdar

join:2004-04-05
Satellite Beach, FL
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reply to LiberalKing
said by LiberalKing:

why dont we in america get this speeds?. how come the hong kongers, koreans and the swedes get it. is it THE AMERICAN GREED?
YES


geography

@tel-ott.com
reply to VegasMan
Hong Kong is part of China

rebus9

join:2002-03-26
Tampa Bay
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reply to tglea
said by tglea:

Anyone who knows anything about construction knows that the labor costs far exceed the cost of materials.
And anyone who knows anything about maintaining large networks knows the cost of acquisition is trivial compared to the TCO over time.

Bottom line is, we're not offered 100 Mbps because providers know "they don't have to".

We kick and scream about speeds, point our fingers at how the rest of the world is eating our broadband shorts, then we shut up and pay the $49 for sub-10M service each month.

If there was a large-scale movement in America where internet users went "on strike", cancelling their DSL and cable-internet services by the millions and going back to dialup until we were offered 50 Mbps symmetrical for $49/mo., I would absolutely participate.

But I know that will never happen. We've become a society that will bitterly complain about being fed sewage, yet happily swallow it rather than fighting it.
 


gravity12

@iauq.com
reply to geography
Just to let you know Hong Kong is part of China but their government system is still in accord with British Colony Rules. They are free to do whatever business they wish.


Anon123

@cushing.org
reply to LiberalKing
I can't believe what you've just said. The only reason that Hong Kong has these speeds is because of that "evil" greed. People in search of a profit have to compete. In the USA a lot of government sanctioned monopolies exist which limit competition (competition of a race for money IE GREED). Hong Kong is one of the most economically free places in the world. Its not American companies greed that keeps our speed low, its government protectionism.

Altruism is a lie


Anon430

@comcast.net
reply to bogey7806
Get the hell out, Oil is more available over there because it is underneath their soil. Bandwidth is limited by hardware technology, which America has the same technology available for the same price. ISP's don't want the internet to be that accessible and easily shared.

reply to MrMoody
said by MrMoody:

They think we'd just use it to trade 20 DVDs a day.
...wouldn't you?

bogey7806

join:2004-03-19
Here
kudos:1
reply to Anon430
We don't have fiber strung literally between every block as they do. Our population density and civil design is vastly different. That's why it costs more here.

Go one and buy a couple Cisco routers and set up your ISP. You'll find out exactly how much it costs and the idea that it's a conspiracy to keep people off the net is as absurd as it sounds.


infinite

@cogentco.com
reply to not kelly ripa
20 DVDs? You could probably pull about 30/day given a solid 10mb down connection (like mine) and usenet. I'm limited by the speeds on their side, not mine. This is all hypothetical of course, I'd never commit piracy.


infinite

@cogentco.com
reply to VegasMan
There are about 7 million people in Hong Kong, and China is one of the largest nations in the world. The only city in the US that is larger is NYC, by something along the lines of 1 million people.


wedgedkitty

join:2006-01-10
Quincy, MA
reply to tglea
said by tglea:

Agree! Not to mention the cost of labor in these Asian locations. They are able to build these networks using labor that is probably pennies on the dollar. Anyone who knows anything about construction knows that the labor costs far exceed the cost of materials.
Even though in Hong Kong, wages are actually often HIGHER than their equivalents in America...??


KrK
Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy
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Tulsa, OK
reply to VegasMan
If that was true, then MDU here and the dense urban areas would have 100mbs symmetrical service, but most areas wouldn't. Too bad it's not true. The reason this hasn't appeared here yet is simple: Greed. It's far more profitable to charge the max possible and deliver the lowest level of service.

People would love that speed here for that price... but it's not going to happen.
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