 dvd536as Mr. Pink as they comePremium
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kudos:4 | reply to Network Guy
Re: Just got 'em said by Network Guy:I will be real happy when USA Network comes in HD. I'm a Law & Order junkie. Guess what? when you get USA-HD those old law & order eps are going to be... yep you guessed it: STANDARD DEF!
if they aren't shot in HD, the best they're going to be is "Stretch - o - vision" and depending on the agreements with NBC, the newer ones shot in HD could possibly be presented in standard def too(on USA-HD).
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I know TNT up-converts their Law & Order stuff. It's not stretched AFAIK. |
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dvd536as Mr. Pink as they comePremium
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kudos:4 | said by Network Guy:No up-converting? I know TNT up-converts their Law & Order stuff. It's not stretched AFAIK. Upconverted or whatever its not going to be as good as being shot in native HD.
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upconverting is like taking a 128kbps mp3 and re-encoding it to 192kbps. sure you have a 192kbps file but the quality isn't any better than what you started with.
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Wait til dadkins shows up on this thread 
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| Meh, I think your analogy is flawed.
When I watch Law & Order in TNTHD it looks slightly pixelated at worst depending on what you're looking at. Native HD provides awesome detail, yes, but upconverting is nothing like taking an already inferior-quality song and re-ripping it at higher quality. There truly is some enhancement, albeit the extent of such is subjective at worst. |
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you do know that NBC owns USA network and NBC Universal HD right? |
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upconverting is like taking a 128kbps mp3 and re-encoding it to 192kbps. sure you have a 192kbps file but the quality isn't any better than what you started with.
I have to wholeheartedly disagree with you. Yes, "upconverted" shows are horribly inferior to true HD shows, but the quality is still generally (and sometmes, markedly) better than what you get on standard def channels. Standard def can still be "DVD quality" with full color fidelity when upconverted. NTSC standard def channels, in contrast, are typically highly compressed with poorer color reproduction and dot crawl, detail being lost to NTSC/composite conversion somewhere along the line.
Your analogy is flawed. Typically watching standard def TV is like taking a 384kbps mp3 "pristine" source material and compressing it down to 96kbps to fit it with all the other channels the cable/sat tried to squeeze in (and/or add analog noise with NTSC color distortion).
Now it's like we have 768kbps 5.1 "high definition" mp3s. We can get the standard def 384kbps mp3s pretty close to their native form when upconverted to the 768kbps "5.1 hd channel", still a worthwhile improvement over that 96kbps "standard def" channel!
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