battleop
join:2005-09-28
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| reply to karlmarx
Re: Good for them
Too bad EPB does not behave like a utility. They are taking tax payer dollars to compete with Private Businesses. It would be one thing if Private business was not supplying HSI but there is very good coverage in Chattanooga from multiple providers.
Between Fiber, Wireless, DSL, and Cable just about every address in Chattanooga has at least 2 of these options. EPB Claims that we do not, and that the fastest speed in town is a 1.5Mb T1. EPB claims that Comcast is the only choice for "Cable Tv" They have never heard of Direct TV or Dish Network, and yes they both carry locals.
It should also be noted that it will cost around $1,500 per EPB customer (not served customer) to install the network. If the network fails it will become a 2% rate hike for all EPB customers.
The city fails to understand that this will not hurt Comcast or AT&T, it will only hurt the local providers in Chattanooga. Comcast and AT&T make billions each year. They have the resources and very deep pockets to level EPB. |
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Yauch
join:2005-06-24
| said by battleop  :Too bad EPB does not behave like a utility. They are taking tax payer dollars to compete with Private Businesses. It would be one thing if Private business was not supplying HSI but there is very good coverage in Chattanooga from multiple providers. That's outdated thinking. Networks should be public owned like roads. Sure they're forcing your to buy the cars to drive on the roads too, but that's beside the point. |
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battleop
join:2005-09-28
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| "Sure they're forcing your to buy the cars to drive on the roads too, but that's beside the point"
That's the whole point. Maybe if they allowed ISPs access to the network (not free access) like they promised with MetroNet. The city originally tired to offer Metronet as a Fiber Transport. ISPs would have bought into Metronet to reach businesses in Chattanooga. None of the ISPs really bought into it because it had a poor technical design. |
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openbox9
join:2004-01-26
Navarre, FL
 ·AT&T Southeast
 ·Mediacom
| reply to Yauch
said by Yauch :That's outdated thinking. Networks should be public owned like roads. Sure they're forcing your to buy the cars to drive on the roads too, but that's beside the point. That sounds great, but the problem is that EPB is taking taxpayer money, building their network to provide their services. Does EPB plan to open the network up for anyone to connect to and sell services? After all, if a publicly owned network, the public should be able to do business on the network...including AT&T, Comcast, etc. |
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karlmarx
join:2006-09-18
Nashua, NH
·Fairpoint Communic..
| But you just answered your own question. "TAXPAYER MONEY". Why should comcast/at&t or any other company be allowed to ride on TAXPAYER MONEY.
The TAXPAYERS think this is a good idea. Comcast and AT&T don't. Suprised? I'm not. What's good for the taxpayer isn't good for the megacorps. That's what this is all about, a network FOR THE PEOPLE.
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openbox9
join:2004-01-26
Navarre, FL
·AT&T Southeast
·Mediacom
| Where have you been? Haven't read your "down with government, free everything for everyone" viewpoint for a while.said by karlmarx :But you just answered your own question. "TAXPAYER MONEY". Why should comcast/at&t or any other company be allowed to ride on TAXPAYER MONEY. Because if a corporation is doing business, they're paying taxes...often times, a lot more than you or I do.said by karlmarx :The TAXPAYERS think this is a good idea. Comcast and AT&T don't. Suprised? I'm not. What's good for the taxpayer isn't good for the megacorps. That's what this is all about, a network FOR THE PEOPLE. Great, but my original comment/point is still valid and should be addressed before you can have a network "for the people". |
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CableConvert
Premium
join:2003-12-05
Atlanta, GA
| reply to battleop
Dont know about Ringgold GA, but my parents live in East Brainard (actually in Chattanooga), and its Comcast or dial up...thats it. So forgive me but your first assumption that affordable high speed broadband provides choice is wrong...incorrect, a lie. Do your research before you make comments like that. I asked my parents WHO RESIDE IN CHATTANOOGA what they thought...and they are thrilled with having a choice. They have had rotten service with Comcast. Appointments where no one shows up, outages, incorrect billing, wrong equipment sent out, etc. I say if the people who reside there want it...it does not matter what we think |
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chattDave
| Your parents are uneducated about their situation. I live in E Brainerd, almost to the furthest extreme point of E Brainerd before the road crosses into GA, and I have at least 2 options for DSL, one option for Cable. I can't believe there is a physical address anywhere in E Brainerd that does not qualify for DSL service. And as pointed out, this is a local government competing against private business. Let's see, they own a hotel, a power company, a telecom, tried to buy the water company.... yeah, I'm thrilled that my city government is spending my tax dollars this way. |
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battleop
join:2005-09-28
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September 27th, @04:56PM
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PM me what neighborhood they are in and I will tell you what choices they really have.
And BTW Ringgold borders East Brainnerd. |
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battleop
join:2005-09-28
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| reply to chattDave
If you are that far out in EB then you won't get EPB FTTH. It's only in the City Limits of Chattanooga. Not East Ridge or Red Bank or Harrison Ooltewah or North Georgia or any other place where EPB's Power monopoly exists. So if you live out side of the city limits there is a chance you will pay %2 for something you could have never had to begin with. |
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battleop
join:2005-09-28
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| reply to chattDave
There are more than 2 that can do DSL in Chattanooga. America Internet, Chattanooga Online, Networks Inc, and VPNtranet all have pipes that peer into the AT&T DSL ATM Cloud. There are some other national ISPs like Earthlink that also peer into the ATM network. |
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CableConvert
Premium
join:2003-12-05
Atlanta, GA
| reply to chattDave
...and those options are? Funny how people throw out lines like fact with no back up...who are they??? My parents are also on the GA line. They are too far away from the nearest CO for dsl...examples lets see examples. FYI...just because you "qualify" according to the teleco...does not mean you can get service. They often tell customers they qualify only to inform them on the install date that they are in fact too far from the co. They have told me for years I qualify...when I know that I am too far to receive service. I'd say you are the one not so educated |
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