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Ulmo

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Re: dangerous precedent

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said by matrix3D See Profile :

I agree. I don't give a crap what kind of BS clause Verizon puts in its contracts -- nothing should take precedence over the Constitution and the Bill of Rights (the First Amendment in this instance).
Verizon is not a government organization and therefore the first amendment is not applicable to them.
Horseshit! They are a common carrier and content is NONE OF THEIR G-D BUSINESS!
For those who care,

My layman's understanding of 1st Amendment vs. Common Carrier is that they must be different because I've never heard of them being derived from the same thing, but both have similar effects. If my layman's understanding is correct, then stating "nonsense!" to an accusation that 1st amendment has nothing to do with Common Carrier and then equating the two interchangeably in conversation simply shows the stupidity of the person doing it. Most people would realize the *potential* for the two items to be different regardless of whether or not they actually are, and would be cautious enough not to use them as equivilent as well. Mixing those two items up shows some sort of mental incapacity, disease, and/or instability.

It was bloody stupid of VW to deny the "pro-lifers" -- verify side -- oh it was the "pro-choicers" -- hm -- well, I personally have a much darker attitude toward them, but the principles are the same -- it was (not bloody but at least a little bit) stupid of VW to deny the "pro-choicers" their forum if they are behaving properly with respect to everything technical (although not necessarily with respect to prudent procreational activities) since VW likes the protections of being a common carrier.

ross

join:2000-08-16
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said by nklb See Profile :

said by matrix3D See Profile :

I agree. I don't give a crap what kind of BS clause Verizon puts in its contracts -- nothing should take precedence over the Constitution and the Bill of Rights (the First Amendment in this instance).
Verizon is not a government organization and therefore the first amendment is not applicable to them.
Horseshit! They are a common carrier and content is NONE OF THEIR G-D BUSINESS!


nklb
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said by matrix3D See Profile :

I agree. I don't give a crap what kind of BS clause Verizon puts in its contracts -- nothing should take precedence over the Constitution and the Bill of Rights (the First Amendment in this instance).
Verizon is not a government organization and therefore the first amendment is not applicable to them.
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matrix3D

join:2006-09-27
Deep River, CT


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I agree. I don't give a crap what kind of BS clause Verizon puts in its contracts -- nothing should take precedence over the Constitution and the Bill of Rights (the First Amendment in this instance).

EDIT: Looks like this story is now obsolete. Apparently Verizon has already reversed its position. »www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21011328/
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