Re: Makes no sense in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r19155287 en Mon, 14 Dec 2009 20:43:14 EDT Mon, 14 Dec 2009 20:43:14 EDT Re: Makes no sense http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19165273 anon :
said by KrK See Profile :

Echostar and DTV merge = Bigger competition to Telco and Cable Company plans.... BLOCKED!
directv/dish was rejected because it would've created a monopoly in the satellite television business; not to "protect" telcos and cable companies. a single satellite provider would've resulted in LESS (not more) competition and higher prices.

a dish/att merger would do the same; less competition, higher prices; and the end to distribution/resale deals dish currently has with telcos other than att. but since the government seems to allow att to do what it wants; don't be surprised to see this pushed through before the current administration ends.

in addition, an att buyout of a dish-owned sling media means the death of slingbox (in the odd chance that the slingbox survives the inevitable lawsuits upon dish ownership); except perhaps as a subscription service to att's own customers only, with rates and limits on what can be "slung" set by the broadcasters/networks.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19165273 Sat, 29 Sep 2007 07:44:29 EDT Re: Makes no sense http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19159342 GeekBigboy : I had dsl and phone with ATT for years but because I moved into the desert ATT doesn't care about my DSL which made try dslextreme but either this will make smaller companies come out and work or the same old att which is usally well you don't service sorry we fix that in 10 20 years BS]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19159342 Fri, 28 Sep 2007 10:04:14 EDT Re: Makes no sense http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19158399 JoeG4 :
said by Hall See Profile :

The gov't wouldn't allow the only (2) DBS providers to merge into one because there'd be only (1) option available to consumers. If AT&T buys Echostar or Dish, there will still be (2).
Yep, AT&T Satellite, vs AT&T U-Verse, and soon enough I'm sure AT&T cable too! :D

Got a problem with that? Why not watch some TV on your AT&T wireless phone?! :D

AT&T should be kicked in the balls and forced to sell their wireless branch off so that they can only monopolize one industry.

WTF for do they need echostar?! Is this admission that their U-Verse plan is a failure?! LMAO!

I have Dish Network right now, and I'm waiting for the U-Verse service here to go active so I can (temporarily) try them out. It's a few bucks less and offers a bit more..

I don't know .. if AT&T bought echostar . oh man :( That'd suck. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19158399 Fri, 28 Sep 2007 03:20:15 EDT Re: Makes no sense http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19158220 Surfinusa :
said by Hall See Profile :

The gov't wouldn't allow the only (2) DBS providers to merge into one because there'd be only (1) option available to consumers. If AT&T buys Echostar or Dish, there will still be (2).


Your right 2 options.. Hmm, Bad or worse.

You have a choice it's america. Bad Old beef or Dog Meat.

Very tasty offer since you put it that way. OOO I can't wait.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19158220 Fri, 28 Sep 2007 01:48:55 EDT Re: Makes no sense http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19158211 Surfinusa :
said by Karl Bode See Profile :

I would be almost positive it would get approval in this "environment". Lower TV Prices for sure this time!
Yep, I think you got the situation pegged.

Lower prices $10.00 a month for 200 channels of AT&T TV and $60.00 for the FCC (Martin) Authorized Charge for NETWORK Access.

In other words $70.00 cable bill.

But the cable is only $10.00 a month wow that's a good deal till you get the bill.

Thanks MR. MARTIN wiping hands of GREEN $$$$ ink.

opps did I say that? It's funny because he doesn't hide is Bias with the telco's or deny his prejudice towards Big Cable Industry.

Like Mr. Bush he doesn't worry about public opinion he just does what the thinks is right or does what they tell him to do. hah]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19158211 Fri, 28 Sep 2007 01:46:05 EDT Re: Makes no sense http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19157486 BosstonesOwn : Exactly , I have no idea what these folks up on the hill are thinking. These types of mergers are just being approved in record times.
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If a merger would actually create a bigger competitor to existing large companies, it's blocked.

If it's a buyout or merger by said existing large interests, it's approved.

IE if it promotes competition and consumer choice it's usually shot down.
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said by KrK See Profile :

said by fldiver See Profile :

If they would not let DTV and Echostar merge why on EARTH would the govt sanction this abysmal idea. I am so glad I stayed with Directv; I despise AT&T with every breath in my body..
Echostar and DTV merge = Bigger competition to Telco and Cable Company plans.... BLOCKED!

Echostar bought by AT&T = Consolidation of media by Telco, of Part of Company plans..... APPROVED!

The FCC lately has been all about Big Business agenda and allowing mergers *except* when it threatens the interests of the Telcos and Cable companies...
Also except when it benefits the consumer and rips control away from the large groups. IE XM/Sirius and NAB.
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Why does there have to be 2 DBS providers. They're TV content providers. There would still be 2 in most markets. This just stacks the cards against DirecTV and saves AT&T tons in so many different ways. Maybe DirecTV could be bought by Verizon then for a similiar benefit? Geesh...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19157297 Thu, 27 Sep 2007 22:16:53 EDT Re: Makes no sense http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19157223 KrK :
said by fldiver See Profile :

If they would not let DTV and Echostar merge why on EARTH would the govt sanction this abysmal idea. I am so glad I stayed with Directv; I despise AT&T with every breath in my body..
Echostar and DTV merge = Bigger competition to Telco and Cable Company plans.... BLOCKED!

Echostar bought by AT&T = Consolidation of media by Telco, of Part of Company plans..... APPROVED!

The FCC lately has been all about Big Business agenda and allowing mergers *except* when it threatens the interests of the Telcos and Cable companies...
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U-Verse and IPTV = Coverage in Rural America.... When.... 10 years... 20 years... Never?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19157202 Thu, 27 Sep 2007 22:03:27 EDT Re: Makes no sense http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19155991 sporkme :
said by Karl Bode See Profile :

I would be almost positive it would get approval in this "environment". Lower TV Prices for sure this time!


Lower prices? Comeon, you have SO much higher quality programming than what used to be available. It's an *awesome* deal. :P]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19155991 Thu, 27 Sep 2007 18:35:09 EDT Re: Makes no sense http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19155684 ropeguru :
said by Jim Gurd See Profile :

Why would they compete with themselves and their U-Verse product? It seems that satellite would cannibalize sales of this service.
No, this would be a good move for them as then they would just sell some kind of crappy satellite type internet and satellite tv to the rural areas and not have to spend the bucks to deply U-Verse.
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The only way that you will ever see 'lower TV prices' is in a bulk per channel cost. (i.e. 1000 channels for $80) vs. 13 channels for #13, similar to Comcast Rick's cost method of HSI. I'd like to see a lower bottom like cost.
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said by Jim Gurd See Profile :

Why would they compete with themselves and their U-Verse product? It seems that satellite would cannibalize sales of this service.
They would probably focus development and sales of uverse in urban areas and echostar sales in more sub-urban settings. It will be a decade or more before ATT brings their entire territory up to speed.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19155511 Thu, 27 Sep 2007 17:11:44 EDT Re: Makes no sense http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19155293 Hall : The gov't wouldn't allow the only (2) DBS providers to merge into one because there'd be only (1) option available to consumers. If AT&T buys Echostar or Dish, there will still be (2).]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19155293 Thu, 27 Sep 2007 16:36:30 EDT Re: Makes no sense http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19155289 Hall : U-Verse is probably turning out to not be as "easy" as they thought.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19155289 Thu, 27 Sep 2007 16:35:34 EDT Re: Makes no sense http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19155287 MrMoody :
said by Karl Bode See Profile :

Lower TV Prices for sure this time!
LOL

We promise!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19155287 Thu, 27 Sep 2007 16:35:08 EDT Re: Makes no sense http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19155177 Karl Bode : I would be almost positive it would get approval in this "environment". Lower TV Prices for sure this time!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19155177 Thu, 27 Sep 2007 16:14:41 EDT Re: Makes no sense http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19155110 KA3SGM :
said by fldiver See Profile :

If they would not let DTV and Echostar merge why on EARTH would the govt sanction this abysmal idea. I am so glad I stayed with Directv; I despise AT&T with every breath in my body..
You can guess that even though there is no 'official' deal on the table, good ole' FCC Chairman Kevin Martin already has his finger on the YES button :uhh:
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