http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r19168407 en Wed, 09 Dec 2009 11:49:26 EDT Wed, 09 Dec 2009 11:49:26 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19176919 voiplover : You can connect the ATA's phone output to DEN/PR1 and it should feed voip to all of your phones. ;)

However, if the wiring was incorrect you may have lost one of your apartment jacks. If the wire coming from the phone company was actually on the right side (and you removed it) then you would have to reconnect the Blue/White pair on the left side.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19176919 Mon, 01 Oct 2007 13:06:25 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19176727 voiplover : Here is a good source for info: »michigantelephone.mi.org/distribute.html]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19176727 Mon, 01 Oct 2007 12:31:09 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19176702 voiplover : I was wrong again. That test jack is special. When you plug a phone into the test jack, it disconnects the house phones from the line and only allows the incoming telco line from the phone company to feed the test phone.
You will need to connect the ata to the house phone side in order to get it to work.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19176702 Mon, 01 Oct 2007 12:27:22 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19176324 Nick61 : The test jack and none of the other jacks produced a dial tone when I connected the phone. Just a quite hiss.

Could this box be for alarm service only? We don't subscribe to that.

Nick]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19176324 Mon, 01 Oct 2007 11:13:07 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19172648 dcurrey : Good thinking voiplover]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19172648 Sun, 30 Sep 2007 17:33:44 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19172610 Nick61 : Thats straightforward. Don't know why I didn't think of it. : - )

Thanks!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19172610 Sun, 30 Sep 2007 17:26:48 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19172550 voiplover : It is possible that someone mistook the input phone wire from the CO and connected it along with the telco jack output wires on the right. :o
Try connecting a phone to the test jack, then remove one lead from each wire on the right until you lose dialtone. That last wire would be the feed from the phone company.

The object is to simply find the pair of wires that come from the phone company and remove them from your phone network. Then connect the phone line from the ATA into your phone network somewhere.

Good luck.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19172550 Sun, 30 Sep 2007 17:16:06 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19171760 Nick61 : No cables marked feed. Should I just disconnect all 4 pairs on the right? I can't see how this could be the box for another apartment.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19171760 Sun, 30 Sep 2007 14:36:13 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19171521 anon : Are any of the cables marked feed? Wonder if someone hooked up the wires wrong. For this type of thing a toner comes in handy. ;)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19171521 Sun, 30 Sep 2007 13:45:58 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19171431 Nick61 : Yes PR1 and 2 on the left. Broadvoice was connected to the cablemodem only.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19171431 Sun, 30 Sep 2007 13:29:15 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19171280 dcurrey : PR3 to PR6 on the right have nothing connected to them.

You have removed the PR1 (blue pair) and PR2 (orange pair) on the telco side and still have dialtone.

This might not be the right NID for you apartment.

You don't currently have you broadvoice device hooked up to any of the jacks do you? ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19171280 Sun, 30 Sep 2007 12:56:11 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19171090 Nick61 : This is in a closet in my apartment.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19171090 Sun, 30 Sep 2007 12:14:10 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19171005 teledatatech : Since this is an appartment building, I would double check you are at the correct NID as you may be looking at the incorrect one.Is this NID outside?
make sure to reconnect those you have disconnected.
Typically, on single line phones, pair one (white/Blue) would be the pair that is used.
--
Embarq DSL 1500/586 | Voicestick | Skype]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19171005 Sun, 30 Sep 2007 11:54:10 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19170928 Nick61 : Just noticed these instructions pasted to the inside of the door. Sorry : - (

»images.mirrosoft.net/instructions.JPG

Nick]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19170928 Sun, 30 Sep 2007 11:38:57 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19170892 Nick61 : Disconnected orange/white (on left side below blue/white) and dial tone remained. This is an apartment.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19170892 Sun, 30 Sep 2007 11:32:02 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19170791 dcurrey : Someone correct me if I am wrong but couldn't he just take a phone with a rj11 connector and connect it to the Network interface test plugs. This should isolate the lines in the apartment without have to remove wires.

Example if he plugs the phone pr1 the lines should drop on everything connected to the PR1 section.

This would tell us what pair he needs to remove.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19170791 Sun, 30 Sep 2007 11:11:17 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19170766 dcurrey : Did you say this is an apartment building? Hope you didn't just disconnect someone else line. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19170766 Sun, 30 Sep 2007 11:06:27 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19170756 teledatatech : Disconnect the white/Orange pair on the left side of the panel and check if you have dial tone.
--
Embarq DSL 1500/586 | Voicestick | Skype]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19170756 Sun, 30 Sep 2007 11:03:22 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19170738 Nick61 : Well I disconnected white/blue on the left group below "INPUT FROM TELCO." This did not stop line service. I connected the phone to the kitchen jack and got a dial tone.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19170738 Sun, 30 Sep 2007 10:59:45 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19170721 voiplover : Try plugging the RJ11 phone cord into P1. If it will hold in place you are in luck. If not you may want to get a phone jack and some spare wire, then run a green and red wire from the jacks terminals to where you disconnected the Blue/White pair.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19170721 Sun, 30 Sep 2007 10:55:02 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19170695 Nick61 : Thanks for this info!

Last question. How can I connect the phone adapter directly to this box? This is required since the cable modem is also in this remote closet.

I cannot run the phone adapter from the closet to jacks in any of the other rooms. It is not possible. The VOIP line has to be connected to this box.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19170695 Sun, 30 Sep 2007 10:48:21 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19169344 oddgeezer : It seems to me that kenn10 has nailed it.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19169344 Sat, 29 Sep 2007 23:45:19 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19169254 kenn10 : OK. On the left hand side, the interface allows for up to six separate phone lines from the phone company labeled Pair-1 (PR-1) through Pair-6. The first four pairs are connected.

If you look at the connections on the right, you'll see that each room has access to the 6 pairs from the telephone company also. In your apartment, they have connected pair-1 (blue/white) and pair-2 (orange/white) to each of your jacks.

Simple solution is to remove the blue/white Pair-1 one on the left of the interface and insure that all your jacks in the apartment are now dead. Then plug your terminal adapter into any of the 4 jacks in your apartment to light them all up or run a jumper from the terminal adapter to the spot on the interface where you pulled off the blue/white pair on the left. Either way, you should then have your VOIP line feeding all the jacks in the apartment.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19169254 Sat, 29 Sep 2007 23:23:39 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19169150 voiplover : Edit: you're right. I read the pic wrong.
Disconnect the Blue/white pare on the left.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19169150 Sat, 29 Sep 2007 22:53:44 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19168995 anon : I doubt you need any jumper wires. Unless there is a jack that was only used for a second line etc. no jumpers should be needed. Just disconnecting the telco should work. Unless you have dry dsl thru telco.
If all are single jacks then probably just disconnecting the blue telco should work.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19168995 Sat, 29 Sep 2007 22:17:00 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19168840 voiplover : Guessing that:
1. You only have one phone line from the phone company
2. You want to now feed all phones with just your voip
3. All of the connections are yours and don't feed another apartment.

Then you would disconnect all of the pairs from the cable on the left.

Then connect the voip line in parallel to each of those connectors. A pair of jumper wire running through the left hand connectors will work if you plan to just plug a telephone cord from your ATA to one of your telephone jacks. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19168840 Sat, 29 Sep 2007 21:46:53 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19168744 anon : Edit: If you have dry dsl over telco then there would be a difference. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19168744 Sat, 29 Sep 2007 21:23:32 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19168724 Nick61 : Thanks. Aren't those the alarm lines?

Did the link not show the pic?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19168724 Sat, 29 Sep 2007 21:20:21 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19168709 anon : I am having problems downloading it but seems it is to telco that gets disconnected. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19168709 Sat, 29 Sep 2007 21:17:50 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19168407 Nick61 : To wire our apartment's phone lines for VOIP, I am trying to isolate the system from the phone company lines as per the Vonage help pages. Here is a pic of our interior box:

»images.mirrosoft.net/phonebox.JPG

Do I pull the "KIT", "LIV", "BR1", "BR2" lines out? Will this completely isolate our phone jacks from the outside?

One last question. The VOIP kit (Broadvoice) includes a standard phone wire with jacks. Do I pull the jack off of one end and thread them into the "KIT" (where the signal needs to go) connectors in this box?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19168407 Sat, 29 Sep 2007 20:07:58 EDT