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swintec
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join:2003-12-19
Alfred, ME
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Telemarketers...

These guys dont need a directory to get our numbers, whats going to stop them from simply dialing random numbers?
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openbox9

join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
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Legality for one thing.

»www.ftc.gov/opa/2005/04/dnc.shtm

"Telemarketing to cell phone numbers has always been illegal in most cases and will continue to be so."


81399672
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join:2006-05-17
Los Angeles, CA
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an exception to the rule is if the phone is owned by corporation. Then they call you as it's considered business phone
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fireflier
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join:2001-05-25
Limbo

reply to openbox9
You don't really think that's going to stop them do you?

I've got a list of caller IDs as long as my arm who have called me illegally based on those FTC guidelines and they keep right on calling (and yes my number is registered with the FTC, and I submit complaints to them when I get such calls).

I gave up expecting the FTC's guidelines to do any good and put my own system together to intercept these crap calls.

Check out whois.us and read some of the most common telemarketing calls. It's really discouraging to see how little the FTC regulations are doing in this area. Cell phone, home phone, VOIP, previous customer or not, the worst of these telemarketers simply don't care because their odds of getting caught and busted are slim if they spoof their ID and stay under the FTC radar by violating less than the next guy.
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openbox9

join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
kudos:2

said by fireflier:

You don't really think that's going to stop them do you?
Yes I do. I can't speak to your misfortune, but neither I, my wife, nor any of my extended family have received any telemarketing calls on their mobile phones beyond a couple of cases. Those instances were corrected by stating the number was a mobile phone, to please not call again, and that the violation was being reported to the appropriate authorities. We have yet to receive any callbacks.


Dezbend
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join:2001-04-20

reply to openbox9
I thought that although the law was still on the books the FCC admitted it became unenforceable when they mandated wireless number portability. I put my number on the national do not call list just to be sure, but I still get the occasional call. I report the calls on the do not call website, but who knows what happens with that.
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fireflier
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join:2001-05-25
Limbo

reply to openbox9
You just haven't gotten on the "right" list yet. Give it time. If you ever do, you'll realize how ineffective the DNC list is when you and the FTC have no good way to determine who to prosecute.

One call going around right now is a recorded message that claims to be from "credit card services" (apparently to trick you into thinking it's your own card issuer). The only option is to press "9" to be connected to an operator who will of course try to sell you or scam you out of something. Otherwise the message just repeats and repeats and eventually hangs up. Pressing "9" is certain to confirm to them they're reaching someone who's actually answering and will likely make the situation worse.

They're in violation of multiple DNC requirements:
1) It's a recorded message and they're not a charity or political organization.
2) They're calling people they've not done business with
3) They spoof caller ID (some people get various 800 numbers from this caller that don't work when called back).

Illegal? You bet! I told one of these assbags that their call was illegal (and explained why) and the guy simply cursed me for wasting his time and hung up. They didn't stop calling. The reason you haven't had "problems" is because you've only gotten calls from entities who actually want to comply with the DNC rules.
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openbox9

join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
kudos:2

Sorry to hear about your situation. Since the DNC list became available of few years ago, I have yet to receive any telemarketing calls to my home or mobile phones beyond the occasional fire/police charity call. Hopefully I'll remain as lucky.


realcableguy

join:2002-01-12
Olathe, KS

reply to 81399672

said by 81399672:

an exception to the rule is if the phone is owned by corporation. Then they call you as it's considered business phone
That explains something. When I saw this article posted, I laughed.Particularly because of this statement. "Telemarketers aren't going to call your unlisted cell phone". I have received two calls on my "work" cell phone from telemarketers but none on my personal cell.

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