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<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 18:18:26 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1266062"><b>Ulmo</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  en102 <A HREF="/useremail/u/297537"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>Then you have to go for plain DSL and POTS.</div>He said fast Internet.<br><br>In my area, AT&T DSL is 768kbps in/384kbps out maximum.  (DSL distance limitations.)  I had "8mbit/s" Comcast, which often burst to over 20mbit/s download and it would usually eak out between 500kbit/s and 1500kbit/s outbound.  Yes, I measured, before, during, and after large FTP, VPN, SSH/SCP, BitTorrent, Gnutella and similar, etc., and experienced pretty much the usual full range of bursting and high use rate limiting, and never dropped below 50KBytes/s outbound and 600KBytes/s inbound (yes you read those right).  I would have definately kept it until the "too much use" letter, except my girlfriend complained about all the extra cables (no comm closet here) and I couldn't afford it anyway.  My DSL at $13/month was still connected to my lifeline POTS anyway because of a darned AT&T-required ISP contract so that was cool.<br><br>True, in my other house I had DSL 6mbit/s inbound and 768kbps outbound, and only cancelled that because of budget.  That cost more than my faster cable modem in my house that only gets fast cable modem (no fast DSL) by about $40 a month, but its terms of service were way better (static IP#s, etc.) so it was actually better for my needs.<br><br>The above poster could try out POTS and "cable modem" (RG6 DOCSIS modem) depending on their definition of "fast" and "Internet", and depending on those definitions, it would either be cheaper or more expensive, and better or worse.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 00:44:33 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1464969"><b>benc</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  BabyBear <A HREF="/useremail/u/1429972"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br><div class="bquote"><small>said by  benc <A HREF="/useremail/u/1464969"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>  :</small><br><br>I, for one, only want POTS and fast Internet access.<br> </div>A new line on your bill "Non-qualifying Bundle recovery cost fee   $5"  :p<br> </div>Except they don't call it that.<br><br>Once, I used to be in an Insight service area, and I did use cable Internet through them.  However, I didn't subscribe to their cable TV, since I'm one of those people who don't watch TV.  I remember that if I had subscribed to cable TV as well I would've gotten a $5 "discount" on the cable TV package.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 14:01:55 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1429972"><b>BabyBear</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  benc <A HREF="/useremail/u/1464969"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>I, for one, only want POTS and fast Internet access.<br> </div>A new line on your bill "Non-qualifying Bundle recovery cost fee   $5"  :p]]></description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 12:44:53 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/297537"><b>en102</b></A> : Then you have to go for plain DSL and POTS.<br><small>--<br>Canada = Hollywood North</small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 12:41:40 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1464969"><b>benc</b></A> : I, for one, only want POTS and fast Internet access.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 12:28:48 EDT</pubDate>
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